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    Superbe Pro

    I'm wondering whether I should sell my 85 Cannondale R500 whole, or part it out. Are the Superbe Pro cranksets desirable? How about with the black chainring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebensch View Post
    I'm wondering whether I should sell my 85 Cannondale R500 whole, or part it out. Are the Superbe Pro cranksets desirable? How about with the black chainring?

    Does it look like this one? Here's one currently on EBAY.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/SUNTOUR-SUPERBE-...QQcmdZViewItem

    Personally I've been looking for the later model that doesn't have the black chain rings and is 130 BCD. Circa 1988-1991
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    yup

    Yup - that's the one exactly. Guess I'll watch to see how that goes. What's the focus on the c. 1990 crankset - just cooler looking? The track Superbe's I've seen are pretty spectacular in their simplicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebensch View Post
    Yup - that's the one exactly. Guess I'll watch to see how that goes. What's the focus on the c. 1990 crankset - just cooler looking? The track Superbe's I've seen are pretty spectacular in their simplicity.
    I already have some of the Superbe Pro parts from the year 1988-1990 and would like the matching crankset from those years. I'm OCD.
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    the last two versions of the superbe pro were pretty much identical except one has a 144mm bcd and the later 130mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhendricks View Post
    I already have some of the Superbe Pro parts from the year 1988-1990 and would like the matching crankset from those years. I'm OCD.
    If someone can offer me a better deal on this crank let me know.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Suntour-Superbe-...QQcmdZViewItem
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    not sure what's going on with that auction.. it's approaching the price of a track crankset..

    got my superbe pro crankset on ebay about a year ago for $25, including dust caps & crank bolts

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    Quote Originally Posted by coelcanth View Post
    not sure what's going on with that auction.. it's approaching the price of a track crankset..

    got my superbe pro crankset on ebay about a year ago for $25, including dust caps & crank bolts
    Superbe Pro is getting a bit crazy lately.
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    Is there any information relating to superbe pro parts without the 'pro' label?

    I ask because the 84 Trek 760 I bought came speced with superbe pro parts, but everything on it just says superbe. I'm confused how the labelling works and wondering if suntour superbe pro parts were just marked suntour superbe until the late 80's.

    Thanks!

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    Inflation

    For some years I've had an appreciation for Suntour gear, especially the Cyclone, Superbe and Superbe Pro lines. In the past 12 -18 months there has been a noticeable increase in prices on Ebay.

    As with anything there are bargains and exceptions but it's routine for Superbe and Pro to equal the prices of Campy offsets. I saw a NOS 1st gen. Cyclone RD in fancy showcase box recently sell for BIN $99.99!! Another, used, went for almost $50. This 50-100% above what it was a year ago.

    Suntour is beautiful stuff, it WORKS and they're making no more.

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    I'm holding onto mine for now, but I've been contemplating an upgrade to 8 or 9 speed STI shimano or campy ergo stuff when the bike gets less use for commuting/campus riding. I don't really see the prices going down soon (hopefully) because there's a pretty finite supply and a lot of people looking for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coelcanth View Post
    not sure what's going on with that auction.. it's approaching the price of a track crankset..

    got my superbe pro crankset on ebay about a year ago for $25, including dust caps & crank bolts
    It's the 175mm length. Hard to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
    Is there any information relating to superbe pro parts without the 'pro' label?

    I ask because the 84 Trek 760 I bought came speced with superbe pro parts, but everything on it just says superbe. I'm confused how the labelling works and wondering if suntour superbe pro parts were just marked suntour superbe until the late 80's.

    Thanks!
    I think the early Pro models were not labeled. I got these from Bill Stevenson last year at our bike club swap meet in Olympia, WA: NIB, rear derailleur doesn't say "Pro" anywhere, just "Superbe" but the box has a "Pro" label added on. Don
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    there's a difference between Superbe and Superbe Pro.
    I believe that Ollo(2)'s are the older 1st generation Superbe.
    I bought a used (excellent condition) Cyclone RD for $10 about 2 months ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
    Is there any information relating to superbe pro parts without the 'pro' label?

    I ask because the 84 Trek 760 I bought came speced with superbe pro parts, but everything on it just says superbe. I'm confused how the labelling works and wondering if suntour superbe pro parts were just marked suntour superbe until the late 80's.

    Thanks!

    If you look closely at the catalog specs, most of the components are listed as Superbe Pro, but the spec'd Crankset is the older Superbe (looks like 70's Campy). The derailleurs were definitely labeled as Pro, and the rear in any case is visually different than the pre-Pro. (looking at the image above the front is different, too) Brakes - I'm not sure. I've seen models that look like early Pro but labeled only Superbe.
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    does anyone have an idea on how much a superbe disc would go for? i just got one as part of a complete bike and have been thinking of unloading it.
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    I'll post pictures of the parts on my bike later. Like I said, the literature says it's speced with superbe pro but I think Trek either ran out and put superbe on it, or they put on stuff that wasn't labeled as pro but was pro. The bike is 84.

    Unfortunately, the RD was swapped to shimano 600 at some point of time

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollo_ollo View Post
    I think the early Pro models were not labeled. I got these from Bill Stevenson last year at our bike club swap meet in Olympia, WA: NIB, rear derailleur doesn't say "Pro" anywhere, just "Superbe" but the box has a "Pro" label added on. Don

    Those parts are the first Superbe Pro I would say very early 1980/1981 then the next generation came out with the words "Superbe Pro" and the "S" insignia on the RD/FD/CRANK/ etc. Cranks were 144 BCD like Campy. After that in 1987 the third version came out of Superbe Pro with the cranks at 130 BCD and the lettering of Suntour Superbe Pro on everuything. Those are the ones that prices are hitting the roof. Here are scans from the 84, 88, and 91 catalogs.

















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    Nice scans...Thanks! They didn't make any junk, and the prices for the whole range are up there. That would be a cool collection. Every year of Superbe, each on an appropriate frame.

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    I know where there is a set of levers (possibly NOS btu with shop wear) missing one hood. Anyone want em?

    Oh non-aero like in the 3rd scan.
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    If gratis, yes. I'll pay shipping.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclotoine View Post
    I know where there is a set of levers (possibly NOS btu with shop wear) missing one hood. Anyone want em?

    Oh non-aero like in the 3rd scan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Barker View Post
    Brakes - I'm not sure. I've seen models that look like early Pro but labeled only Superbe.
    I have a set of standard reach Superbe Pro brakes on one of my bikes. circa 82 I think.
    The calipers only have Superbe printed on them. Lever are same as those pictured in the 84 catalog.
    Note the color of the cable adjuster nut donut. The early sets came in this 'salmon' color, as did the brake pads. I replaced mine with the later black colored Superbe pads in the pics.



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    Quote Originally Posted by afilado View Post
    If gratis, yes. I'll pay shipping.
    Ney, They are at a shop. Old stock. I'd have to buy them first.
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    Thanks, no. Hope I didn't appear flippant, Cyclotoine.



    Quote Originally Posted by cyclotoine View Post
    Ney, They are at a shop. Old stock. I'd have to buy them first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afilado View Post
    Thanks, no. Hope I didn't appear flippant, Cyclotoine.
    nope, but I can assure you they would be a lot less than ebay prices.
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