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Old 01-04-08, 03:02 PM   #1
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For Lovers of Old Japanese Steel: Early Nishiki Olympic

There are some VERY, VERY SCARY things coming out of the deepest, darkest sinister depths of my basement and (even further deep) my furnace room right now. (No joking, I just tripped over some type of 1970 muscle bike from Austria called a Stratostreak II that weighs a ton)

I have always been a huge fan of white bikes for riding in the rain or night time. I usually grab any high-viz bike that will fit the bill, and this one caught my eye many years ago. I just never got around to it.....

Things I know: It used to ride nicely. It is a perfect fit for me and I'll probably kick myself shortly after flipping it.
Everything on it is heavy steel. Cottered cranks. Hubs: "S.I.W. Suzue Japan 4D". Rear D Shimano Eagle. Front D Shimano Thunderbird. Steel rims are never good in rain, but I like this bike anyways and don't want to alter it.
Some sort of unexplainable fun factor to this bike


Things I thought I knew but don't: I thought that these were Nervex Pro lugs...??
I have no idea who the heck made these dropouts... "Wooso".... "WCCSC"...... ??
I thought that it might be a 1972 or '73...??

Anyways, here's a moldy oldie for ya'

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Old 01-04-08, 03:03 PM   #2
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I suspect that T-Mar can tell you what year it is. Doesn't look too bad considering it's been lurking in a dungeon for so many years .

Serial number?

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Old 01-04-08, 03:40 PM   #4
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Thanks East Hill,
Looks like "KS205394" with some sort of a strange, fancy "W" or "M" beneath it....

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I also have no idea who "KB Bicycle" was....?? But they made my bars...
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Here's a great old thread which just happens to answer a lot of questions .

http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/in.../t-150429.html

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Here's a great old thread which just happens to answer a lot of questions .

http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/in.../t-150429.html

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Oooh, that's a good thread! I wish I could see photos of that one. It sounds nice...


Sheeesh, why am I just now thinking about how cool this bike would be with fenders, new bar tape, and some toe clips??

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The problem with really old threads is that often the photos are missing . I think T-Mar can probably give you a bit more information when he happens along.

Fenders, bartape...yes, sounds very nice .

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Yes, it defiinitely one of the early ones on the basis of the bamboo font for the downtube logo. My best estimate, based on my current understandering of the Nishiki serial numbers, is circa 1973. The WCCS stamped on the dropouts refers to West Coast Cycle Supply, the USA importer. Kawamura was the manufacturer of this brand and the KB could stand for Kawamura Bicycle, Kawamura Brand or Kawamura Built. K(awamura) B(icycle) Bicycle would be redundant, so I prefer the latter two.

I have new thoughts on the symbol below the serial number. I believe it may be the symbol for West Coast Cycle Supply. It looks like a W with two squared-off C's facing in opposite directions. If so, it could mean West Coast Cycle.
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I have new thoughts on the symbol below the serial number. I believe it may be the symbol for West Coast Cycle Supply. It looks like a W with two squared-off C's facing in opposite directions. If so, it could mean West Coast Cycle.
Interesting thought. It's certainly not just a plain 'W', and it certainly could be two 'C's joined to a 'W'. I'll have to take another look at the four of mine with the symbol.

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More info. The lugs are only Japanese copies of Nervex. The posts and stems from that era were typically not very long. Based on what I see, I suspect they are not inserted far enough to be safe. PI suggest you check them out, as I wouldn't want to hear that you have been kissing asphalt.
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More info. The lugs are only Japanese copies of Nervex. The posts and stems from that era were typically not very long. Based on what I see, I suspect they are not inserted far enough to be safe. PI suggest you check them out, as I wouldn't want to hear that you have been kissing asphalt.
Thanks T-Mar... You da Man!

I'm surprised that they didn't get in trouble for blatantly ripping off Nervex design. That's a little bit too close of an immitation.

The stem is maxxed and it needs to go down. I adjusted the seat post long ago and it goes 1/2" below the bottom of the "slot"/window on the back side of the seat tube, but maybe I should give it another inch or so....

That's a cool theory about the "]W["

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Damn! Why cant I find a bike with lugs like that? I'd paint it black with red lugs and gold pinstripe. I love it!
If it was smaller I'd pm the tar out of ya!
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I will concur with T-Mar about the decals and the age of the bike. I bought an International in spring 1973 that used those decals, and I have a Competition now that dates (verified through component date codes) to the same time.

All of the Nishiki bikes were a very good value back then.
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I concur with the estimates of vintage and with the observations regarding West Coast Cycle Supply and Kawamura. Contrary to my post in the old archive thread, I now recall that the very first Nishiki Olympics were called Olympiads. I think the Olympiad -> Olympic switch coincided with the rechristening of the Kokusai as the International.

For what it's worth, on 19 March 1971 I bought my American Eagle [Nishiki] Semi Pro [Competition], serial number KS78091. The lugwork was about the same as that of the Olympic pictured above, although the Semi Pro had a slick-looking wraparound seat stay, copied from Raleigh.
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Nice to get that update on the Nishiki genealogy, John E!

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It seems like the matter of KB Bicycle was never concluded, so I will point it out. According to Howie Cohen, the son of Leo Cohen, founder of West Coast Cycle Supply, the tag means "Kawamura Built Bicycle."

Howie Cohen has a great website called "Everything Bicycles Collection" where he also explains the meaning the three colored stripes.
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Hola que tal yo tengo la serie KS 182487 W
Desconocía la historia de la bicicleta pero ahora se que es lo que tengo, gracias por el aporte.
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Hola que tal yo tengo la serie KS 182487 W
Desconocía la historia de la bicicleta pero ahora se que es lo que tengo, gracias por el aporte.
Bienvenidos a los foros.

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