I picked up a NOS Persons Honey-colored bike saddle for $2 at a thrift store--certainly not a Brooks, has two small rivets in the back, 'leather' is pretty thin wall with cushioning underneath the leather. The black stitching is excellent and contrasts well with the honey color saddle. Two black springs underneath marked Persons USA in the crossbar that joins the springs and a sticker on the metal framework underneath that says Permaco 930. Anybody have any info? Date of manufacture? Sorry no camera for pictures.