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Old 02-16-08, 06:03 PM
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Campy experts step in please....

If you could analyze this bike I'd appreciate it. All I know is the crankset...Grand Sport (its stamped, lucky me!!)

1. Does it have complete matched grouppo?
2. If so, what grouppo?
3. If not, whats it have?
4. Approximate date of the components?

https://www.turn2sportbikes.com/PeugeotBicycle.html

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Originally Posted by miamijim
If you could analyze this bike I'd appreciate it. All I know is the crankset...Grand Sport (its stamped, lucky me!!)

1. Does it have complete matched grouppo?
2. If so, what grouppo?
3. If not, whats it have?
4. Approximate date of the components?

https://www.turn2sportbikes.com/PeugeotBicycle.html

Thanks,

Jim

I think the crankset, pedals, shift levers and possibly the seatpost and derailleurs are Campy Gran Sport of the late 70s. If there's a dominant gruppo, that's it. The lion on the mountaintop is Peugeot, but I don't know moer about the bike.
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Originally Posted by Road Fan
The lion on the mountaintop is Peugeot, but I don't know moer about the bike.

You dont?
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The rear derailluer is Campy 980, fairly low end. Seatpost and shifters are Record. Pedals appear to be Gran Sport. Don't recognize the QR skewers. Are the hubs Campy as well? They sorta look like Nuovo Tipo, but I'm no expert with those.
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Peugeot Super Competition in Reynolds 531 (obviously from the decalwork). Campagnolo 980 front and rear derailleurs (Much like Victory series stuff). Everything else Gran Sport. I'd guess early 1980's. Possibly end of 70's.

What do you want to know about it, more specifically?

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What do you want to know about it, more specifically?

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I was curious as to the menagere of Campy components. Primarily model and vintage.

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mostly Gran Sport as stated, the 980 derailers are 80's with the front being after Victory was introduced. Gran Sport derailers at the end did not look as "pricey" as they cost, the 980's function well, and look a bit more modern. There is more than one 980 design, the earlier front derailers look scary.

note derailer spelled as Mr. Brown did, just for this post. I bantered email with him on that long ago, I thought it was interesting a guy who could translate French and shifting history spelled it that way.
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Originally Posted by repechage
mostly Gran Sport as stated, the 980 derailers are 80's with the front being after Victory was introduced. Gran Sport derailers at the end did not look as "pricey" as they cost, the 980's function well, and look a bit more modern. There is more than one 980 design, the earlier front derailers look scary.

note derailer spelled as Mr. Brown did, just for this post. I bantered email with him on that long ago, I thought it was interesting a guy who could translate French and shifting history spelled it that way.
Older bikes, as sold, custom-built, or customized by experienced cyclists, tended to be more eclectic in the set of components found on them. Component manufacturers often made only a few of those needed to complete a bike, as opposed to the 80s onward, when every manufacturer seemed to have a more or less complete gruppo, or should I say, a range of them at different price/quality points.

Maybe a fitting tribute to Sheldon Brown would be that everyone in cycling, going forward, resolves to spell "derailer" the way he did. A memorial by orthography.
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Originally Posted by Charles Wahl
Older bikes, as sold, custom-built, or customized by experienced cyclists, tended to be more eclectic in the set of components found on them. Component manufacturers often made only a few of those needed to complete a bike, as opposed to the 80s onward, when every manufacturer seemed to have a more or less complete gruppo, or should I say, a range of them at different price/quality points.

Maybe a fitting tribute to Sheldon Brown would be that everyone in cycling, going forward, resolves to spell "derailer" the way he did. A memorial by orthography.
As much as I respect Sheldon, what he did, and how he did it, I think the French and Italian traditions in innovatign the early configuration of lightweight cycles into a form that has stood the test of time is much more important.

I tend to use the British slang "rear mech" when I don't feel like spelling out "derailleur."

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