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Old 02-18-08, 04:29 PM   #1
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Anyone have a 1984 Raleigh Road Ace 12

I am looking at a frame I suspect is a 1984 Road Ace. Does anyone have pictures of the lugs or can describe them? Thanks
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Look for the shot-in backstays.
An '84 Raleigh Road Ace:



Later ones, possibly late '84 but definately '85 had shaded paintwork similar to the Raleigh Quasar but retains the distinctive shot-in backstays:
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^^^

Offering a bike in 54cm then 60cm and then 64cm is quite the "range"
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Back stays are different. Not a Road Ace.
Thanks for the input.
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I am not sure, but I believe that my Raleigh Gran Course is essentially the same frame. Has exactly the same stays, and the "shot-in" detail. Mine is a Worksop bike, Reynolds 531C tubeset, Prugnat windowed lugs, nice workmanship. The only difference I can see is that mine has the standard Campagnolo-style shifter braze-ons, while the Road Ace has one of those tube-top fixtures -- probably to accommodate the 600AX group. My frame (purchased as frame only) is actually in the same catalog as the pages pictured above, in the back. My frame also has the "fade" paint scheme -- darker blue-gray metallic on bottom and front, light blue metallic on top and rear. You can see pictures of my bike here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13175746@N05/
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I am not sure, but I believe that my Raleigh Gran Course is essentially the same frame. Has exactly the same stays, and the "shot-in" detail. Mine is a Worksop bike, Reynolds 531C tubeset, Prugnat windowed lugs, nice workmanship. The only difference I can see is that mine has the standard Campagnolo-style shifter braze-ons, while the Road Ace has one of those tube-top fixtures -- probably to accommodate the 600AX group. My frame (purchased as frame only) is actually in the same catalog as the pages pictured above, in the back. My frame also has the "fade" paint scheme -- darker blue-gray metallic on bottom and front, light blue metallic on top and rear. You can see pictures of my bike here:
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Ah! Gran Course, just like this one:

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That's the page I was referring to in my post above. "Gran Course" is a weird name -- wrong in Italian, wrong in French or English.
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Ah, similar to "Häagen-Dazs" in that case. It was a made up name just meant to sound European but meets no individual language rules but adds a few togther.

Anyway, I've had a look at your Gran Course bike. It looks awesome. I just missed out on a Gran Course frame on e-Bay a short while ago but I'm currently re-Campag-ing my Team Replica, as seen at the top of this page.
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I am not sure, but I believe that my Raleigh Gran Course is essentially the same frame. Has exactly the same stays, and the "shot-in" detail. Mine is a Worksop bike, Reynolds 531C tubeset, Prugnat windowed lugs, nice workmanship. The only difference I can see is that mine has the standard Campagnolo-style shifter braze-ons, while the Road Ace has one of those tube-top fixtures -- probably to accommodate the 600AX group. My frame (purchased as frame only) is actually in the same catalog as the pages pictured above, in the back. My frame also has the "fade" paint scheme -- darker blue-gray metallic on bottom and front, light blue metallic on top and rear. You can see pictures of my bike here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13175746@N05/
Interesting. I also have a Worksop bike with the same lugs, Gipiemme dropouts, 531c tubeset, but it is a Carlton Supercourse. The Worksop factory closed in April (?) 1981, if memory serves, and of course it produced Carltons and higher-end Raleighs. Apparently they are the same frame with different decals. Mine is also nicely finished, though the mitering is somewhat suspect.





Apologies for hijacking the thread a little.
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Old 02-20-08, 12:01 PM   #10
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No need to apologize for photos showing windowed lugs!

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I just missed out on a Gran Course frame on e-Bay a short while ago
I'd like to find another that's larger: mine is a 57, and while it should nominally fit me, I have a horrendous amount of seatpost exposed when it's where I'm comfortable. I need a 61 or 62. I can't remember if I took any of the photos since I've replaced the SR post with a Nitto 65 (crystal fellow), which is very easy on the eyes, but still too much stalk. Makes the stem look even worse -- have a long DirtDrop to use, but haven't found the time to unwrap bars and install.
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anyone know what it might ne worth????

Hi guys. I've been reading the posts on this site for a while but never posted my self.

Just found this thread as i was trying to find out about a bike i aquired from a friend. I Just found out it is this exact raleigh roadace 12 but with out those parapull brakes in the pic.

I got it for free but took most of the parts off for a nother frame as it was too big for me too ride. I still have all the parts tho so could put it back together.

I was trying to sell the frame on its own but thought iy might have a better value as a whole bike???
I have all the shimano 600 set. The spokes on the rims are a bit rusty and the frame has a couple of spots of rust but only very minor...

... Does anyone have a rough idea of what it might be worth as a frame or as a bike???

I would rather ride it myself but unforunatly dont have long enough legs so am looking to build myself a new/old bike.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 09-05-08, 08:44 PM   #12
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I am sorry to say this, but I think it's a cold day in Hell when a decent group on a decent frame will sell for more complete than as parted-out. How large is your frame? As per usual here: got pics of the bike? Perhaps you could swap for a frame that suits you better, and reuse the components.
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I had this bike... I got the 1984 model as birthday present in January of 1985, from my Dad. "shark grey and polar blue fade" was the description of the paint, if I remember it right. Years after I left home my Mum gave the bike to a local kid who was a bit of a phenom on the junior race circuit. He passed away earlyl from an illness... No idea what ever happened to my road-ace. I'd buy one today if I could find a clean one.
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