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Old 03-09-08, 01:13 AM   #1
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ID Bike help - maybe European

Hi everybody!

Just picked up a bike at a garage sales in Western Australia. As you can probably imagine you won't find many old European bikes out here. I might have found one today and would be keen to find out the identity.

It has cut outs in the lugs and some European parts and a sticker (probably from a bike store) from Belgium. Other than that it has a Maillard front hub, a Weinmann rim and a Mavic rim, a Campagnolo straight back skewer (worth the purchase price of the bike ;-) and Mondolo Corsa brake calipers.

The colour underneath that blue was turquoise (maybe the original).
I can't seem to find a serial number.

Any help highly appreciated. I'll strip it later and see how much it weighs.

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Old 03-09-08, 06:18 AM   #2
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Im not much of an expert but If the pivo stem is 2mm narrower then a regular stem, then Its french and prehaps the bars, frame and forks too. (Maillard is also french). The Modolo Corsa brakes from italie were produced from 1982, and the bike shop sticker is from belguim, rijwielenjacobs.be. I hope some C&V experts can help you out with this one
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Old 03-11-08, 05:44 AM   #3
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Here is an update!

Age: Brakes make it younger than '82 - BB cable routing older than mid '80s. Maillard front hub form '84 might be original and a good guess at the age of the bike: '84/85.

Serial number: Found it hidden under the top tube brake cable: 3000 6031256N

Stem: It's 23mm - actually larger than 'usually' The allen key is a 7 mm which I've never needed on an other bike. I don't even have one and never missed it!

Guess these are some unique features that should help ID the bike.

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Old 03-21-08, 06:54 AM   #4
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Hi!
I've just acquired a 7mm allen key, got the stem off, and put the frame onto my kitchen scale.
Rather disappointing 2,400g. Probably ChoMo P.G..
BB cups are also from '84. Hence, the bike probably is too.

Other than maybe French I'm still pretty clue less.
Anyone bold enough for a wild guess at the brand?

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Old 03-30-08, 03:24 AM   #5
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Update.

Found a tiny stamp on the head lugs: BCM (aka Bocama), French
Fork is stamped NERVOR, also French.

However, dropouts are Shimano SF (What's the SF about?)

Still looking at a French or Belgian bike - Shimano drops are a bit unusual, aren't they?

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I did a web search on Hugo Jacobs. They still operate a store in the Netherlands. Perhaps they can identify the maker. Good luck.
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Old 04-27-08, 05:10 PM   #7
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we are a store in Belgium www.rijwielenjacobs.be

i'll show the pictures to my boss next tuesday and ask if he nows something about the model
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my boss said that it might be a 'liberia' or something like that, sold between 1975 and 1980 in our shop
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my boss said that it might be a 'liberia' or something like that, sold between 1975 and 1980 in our shop
Hi Stefaan,
thank you very much. I've also been mailing with Rijwielen a few weeks ago.
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much info around about Liberia, other than that they are from Grenoble and this one pic of a better '72 model that I found on the web...
I would have assumed that there should be quite many around based on the very long serial number...
And although just by the frame it could well be 75-80, all the parts rather point to 84 (of course they could all be not original - it's a wild mix anyway).

Does anybody have some more info on Liberia and maybe even some pics and specs, or some idea of the models at the time?

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