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Old 03-13-08, 01:19 PM   #1
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Does this sound promising for a first vintage road bike?

61 cm Raleigh frame
Mavic MA 40 rims
Cinelli hubs, Stem, handlebars
Vittoria Zaffiro 700x28 cm tires (New)
Original stock built V-Brakes and Suntour Tension Shifters
12 speeds
Look Clipless pedals
Turbo Saddle
White/Seagreen color scheme



I'm 6'4" - my single speed commuter bike is a 62cm, and I feel like a 61cm should be a decent fit, especially given the inexpensive price of the bike. This would be my first vintage bike - I'm going to pick it up after work. What things to look for, and is this a good deal?
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Old 03-13-08, 01:30 PM   #2
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How deep are you in it?
Given the size is right it looks like a decent enough ride.
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Looks like reasonably good components. I am suspicious about it having Cinelli hubs. Hard to tell if it was a good deal if we don't know the model of bike and what you paid. Where you are is a factor too. A good deal in NYC might not be a good deal in Omaha .
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I apologize, I thought I posted the price. It's listed for $100, and it's in DC - I'd be driving about an hour and a half to pick it up.
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In that case, you definitely did quite well. Do you know the model of Raleigh?
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I know nothing more about the bike than what's posted. It sounded like a good enough deal that I told the seller I'd definitely pick it up, and wouldn't haggle on price if they could hold it until this evening - their response, "it's all yours."

I suppose I'll be posting with more detail when I have it in my hands! Please, nobody snag it out from under me!
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I apologize, I thought I posted the price. It's listed for $100, and it's in DC - I'd be driving about an hour and a half to pick it up.
Make sure you communicate well with the seller. Some sellers have been burned so much by people not showing up, they sell to the first person who shows up.

edit: You beat me to the bunch. Glad he is holding it for you.
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I guess by V-brake the seller means centerpulls? Seems like a decent deal. Just be careful... the sizing with raleigh was C-T so if it is 61c-t and not c-c it might be on the small side, which it looks it might be. I should know I am just shy of 6'4" and ride 62cm frames also.
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If I could make my money back out of it, I don't mind it being a little small just for the experience of owning/riding an older bike for a little while until I find a frame that is a better fit for me.
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Definitely looks like it's worth the price. Besides, the phrase "first vintage road bike" is promising in and of itself.
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You guys have me itching for a vintage bike. I've been lurking for a bit. I bought my wife a nice late-model (2005-2006) Trek 2100 for Christmas, and I'm keeping an eye out for myself for a road bike to be able to ride with her...stumbled upon this forum, and ever since I've been wishing for the right older bike to turn up on Craigslist.
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.... ever since I've been wishing for the right older bike to turn up on Craigslist.
Looks like you found it! Welcome to C&V!

Nice catch. I've paid more than $100 for an old 5speed freewheel.
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15 minutes until work ends....tick....tick....tick...the clock couldn't possibly move more slowly! :-)
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I hope you get the bike - I didn't see that one. The new tires and LOOK pedals are worth $50. In the D.C. metro area you could swap out the pedals & tires, and resell at $150 - so no real risk.
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61 cm Raleigh frame
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I'm 6'4"
Unless you're extremely long-torsoed, I'd say that a 61 is too short. I can ride one, and I'm only 5'-10".
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Old 03-13-08, 10:49 PM   #16
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I'd say it might be bigger than 61cm - I don't have a measuring tape to measure it. Just a test fit and it feels like it's going to fit me just great. I'm working on resizing and uploading pics as we speak.

Some more details:

Suntour Power friction shifters
Weinmann center-pull brakes
Shimano 105 RD
Shimano 600 FD
Mavic MA-40's w/ Campagnolo hubs and skewers
Shimano crank - 52T outer ring, Biopace 42T inner ring
Diacompe aero brake levers
Cinelli Campione Del Mondo bars & Cinelli stem
Very heavily aged, but kind of cool, Selle Italia Turbo saddle
SR seatpost (Sakae?)

The bad:
Really should get new cables all around, plus some Diacompe side-pull brakes to replace the Weinmanns. Rear wheel is very out of true, front wheel close to true - rims look brand new (no brake wear on the sidewalls), though, and the hubs spin smooth as silk. Pictures in 10 minutes or so.

No decals on the bike, period, but I really dig the color scheme. I think I'll end up stripping it down and painting it, but will probably stick with close to this color.
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Be on the look out for some Kool Stop Salmon pads. They made my Raleigh Pro stop so well.
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Unless you're extremely long-torsoed, I'd say that a 61 is too short. I can ride one, and I'm only 5'-10".
Sure, you can ride one, but it's not going to fit you. I'm 6'2" and ride a 58cm. I can ride a 61cm as well, but on longer rides (75+ miles) I get pain in my elbow from being a little more stretched out.

61cm is way too big for 5'10", I don't care how you're built.

A 61 will fit the OP just fine if he normally rides a 62. There's only a half inch of difference... not hard to compensate for with seat and bar adjustments. That looks like a great deal for $100. Congrats!

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Old 03-13-08, 11:25 PM   #21
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Nice find. Dig the white cranks. Those hubs should polish up beautifully.

edit: Actually, in the closeup of the rear hub, it appears you probably have a broken (or nearly broken) spoke or two. Which would explain the out-of-true wheel. Most likely the result of shifting the chain into the spokes (which in turn is most likely the result of a misadjusted derailer).

Still a nice find. Spokes are cheap. You'll have to remove the freewheel to replace them, assuming only the couple pictured on the drive side are defective.

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Definitely needs some cleaning up, but I think you did well. Should make a very nice ride.
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Old 03-13-08, 11:56 PM   #23
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You're absolutely right, thank you for pointing that out. I thought the hub looked a little strange when the wheel was spinning, but I was looking at the hub and not the spokes. I have a good friend who builds wheels - I may have him help me replace whatever is necessary on the rear wheel and help me true it - he owes me one anyway.
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Just realized the crank arms is Shimano Sante - is that at all rare or valuable?
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Sante is a good crank. Not terribly valuable though. Cool (especially for decking out a fixed gear in white components). The rims are highly sought after and once you clean up those wheels you could say the sale price was nearly worth those alone (look nearly brand new!). I like the weinmann centerpulls that should work as good as almost any 80s side pull.
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