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Old 05-29-08, 05:25 PM   #1
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Grandfathers Pinarello *pictures added*

My grandfather just gave me his bike, its a pinarello treviso. Im not sure of the year though. Is there anyway to tell through serial numbers? The components mostly look like nuovo record. I also can put some pictures on when I get home from work if that would help. Under the bottom bracket it says pinarello, then underneath that is says Treviso-Italy. To the left of those is what looks like a serial number, B596. Thanks










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Old 05-29-08, 05:33 PM   #2
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Don't know about Pinarello numbers - someone else here probably will - but the Campy derailleur will have "Pat. XX" on the body, where XX is the year. Also, Campy cranks will have a number, either in a circle or a diamond, which is tougher to figure out but that will be a help.

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There are some 80's catalogues here.
http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/
For what it is worth my 1987 Montello is # oo 864.
Components can be meaningless since they sold frames separately too.
Pictures ARE needed. Can you ask him when he bought it assuming he didn't leave it to you in his will?
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For some reason his old mechanic took the rear derailleur and drive side crank off and replaced them with newer shimano stuff. I dont know if they broke or what but the original left crank arm is there. On the inner part of the arm it says 170 strada then has an 8 in a diamond.
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Treviso is one of the models, and is also on a lot of the decal sets because Treviso, Italy seems to be where Pinarello calls home.

You can always buy this one:
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For some reason his old mechanic took the rear derailleur and drive side crank off and replaced them with newer shimano stuff. I dont know if they broke or what but the original left crank arm is there. On the inner part of the arm it says 170 strada then has an 8 in a diamond.
The cranks are 1978, if that helps ...
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rear dropouts have the "Portacatena" feature (2 holes) so it might be one of the very earliest uses of these DOs (introduced around 1978) or might be just a little later. Too bad the fork crown is showing some rust but hope it hasn't got too deep. Try some acid (phosphoric or oxalic) before you go crazy with anything abrasive.
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Way cool bike! And it being your grandfather's you have an obligation to fix it up right.

Pics of my 80's Treviso HERE but I think your bike is older. btw, I just paid $19 for that headbadge. (plus $11 for shipping from Italy)
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So, if I were to try and find a matching derailluer and crankset should I just keep an eye out on ebay? Craigslist? Also, how would I go about taking the old stickers off if I was going to put new decals on?
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Old decals can come off using a hair dryer and some patience.

eBay is a good source of old gear; just do your homework so you don't pay too much. Sometimes bidders get into a frenzy out there.

JRrestore has new decals for you. Search eBay. check the road bike parts and the vintage parts sections. Around $40 bucks should get you a new set of decals.
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For some reason his old mechanic took the rear derailleur and drive side crank off and replaced them with newer shimano stuff. I dont know if they broke or what but the original left crank arm is there. On the inner part of the arm it says 170 strada then has an 8 in a diamond.
He did it so your grandfather could ride it! No, not because he was/is old - just because triples are more practical, especially in certain regions.

Ask him if he still has the original parts stashed somewhere.
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I did ask him if he had them but he said he didnt. I understand putting the triple on I just wish they would have given him the old parts back.
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I find it odd that those wheels are drilled for (gasp!) Schrader valves. I'm thinking someone must have modified them.

Nice bike BTW, I'd love to get my hands on a Pinarello.
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Well, I thought treviso was the model because it was on the frame. I have been doing some research and apperantly thats not true. There is nothing written on the top tube so I don't really know what to look for to find out what frame it is. Any clues to look for or can anyone tell me what it is? Thanks

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Those rims are bomb proof
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Old decals can come off using a hair dryer and some patience.

eBay is a good source of old gear; just do your homework so you don't pay too much. Sometimes bidders get into a frenzy out there.

JRrestore has new decals for you. Search eBay. check the road bike parts and the vintage parts sections. Around $40 bucks should get you a new set of decals.
The original Pinarello transfers were almost like paint...they were not water slides and not varnish fix and not vinyl stick ons. I think that heat may make a mess, but they are very fragile and you can scrape 'em off with your fingernail in about three minutes.

The bike is most likely a Treviso or a Record, and I think from the very early '80's.
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Cherish that bike, it looks like it was well-ridden which makes it that much nicer.

I hope I can give my grandchild such a well-loved and beautiful piece of machinery one day.
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It's a curious mix. I know very little of pinarellos, they have never really interested me for some reason. That said the details on this are nice. I would guess this bike is in the 1978-1982 range as others have pointed out but it is very difficult to say. Why only one crank arm was replaced is beyond me. If you can find a single for cheep that would be good but getting a whole set will likely be the easier option. The bike may have had super or nuovo record on it, it's impossible to say. The FD is pre CPSC (post 1978) record (super or nuovo). The seatpost and headset are super record. The calipers are record and standard reach (which makes me think the bike is more likely 1978/79). There is no real distinction between super and nuovo calipers...as a side note, the washer below the two nuts on the center bolt of the front caliper is incorrect. The levers are the only piece of the bike that is definitively nuovo. So it makes the bike a candidate for super record though the going rates for nuovo seem to be a lot lower than for super.

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well, there's no reason to assume that the parts are anything but original...the headset is a super record, btw. Based on the age of the remaining crankarm, the brake details and the flat quick release skewer handles, I suppose that late 70's is closer than early 80's.

I'm guessing that this was a Super Record Special...full Columbus SL, the same frame as the later Record, but with a little more chrome. Nuovo Record parts would be appropriate, as all of the frames were sold as framesets as well. Look closely at the front end of the top tube, and see if you can make out the remains of decals, or perhaps different colors based on sun fade. This spot is where the model name was placed on Pinarellos.
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