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Old 05-31-08, 09:29 AM   #1
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Help me identify Mystery bike

Hello, I am 14 years old and Ive been mountainbiking for a couple of years and have a fairly good quality mountain bike ( kona shred). I decided i wanted to get into road biking because it always looked like great fun. I just inherited this Marinoni from my grandfather along with a Bianchi. They it was in pretty bad shape when first got it but i sent the Marinoni along with the Biancho to get fixed up, i gave the mechanoc permission to use parts of the Bianchi to use to upgrade the marinoni. I paid $50 for the fix up and let me say he did a FANTASTIC job!

I would very mch like to know the model of the Marinoni but i dont know anything about road bikes let alone older one's. Can Anyone tell from the pictures what Model it is and if it is a decent road bike.

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Yes, it's very decent. I can't tell you what specific model Marinoni it is (but one of the C&V folks surely will) except that it's Columbus SL tubing and looks to be very well made...should ride like a champ. Couple small notes: judging by the seat height it looks like it might be a little small for you, and if you are growing you'll probably outgrow it, enjoy it while you can and prepare to send it to a new home in good condition (plenty of women are hunting for nice bikes like this in this size range).
That water bottle is jammed in the cage, it's the wrong size and looks uncomfortable: set it free.
I know this is picky, but I've never liked those plastic Zefal pump pegs, and it's bound to ruin the Columbus decal underneath it. I like Zefal pumps just fine, but get any brand pump you like that fits the frame and dump that plastic peg.
If the Bianchi is a larger sized frame, hold it in reserve and maybe you can do a parts swap to that one when it's time to move up (in size that is).
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Wow....you did good. Can't help you with any info, though.
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Porkito, I can not tell you the model of your Marinoni just that you have a very nice vintage bike. The components seem to be all Campy Super Record, which are very desirable, and the frame looks to be Columbus SL.
All in all you have got really nice little bike, and as long as it fits you, it should work well for you. I think you will find that riding on the road will greatly improve you mountain bike riding. Judging by how you have the bike set up it looks like you may be outgrowing the frame soon. I recomend you hang on the components from this bike and transfer them to a larger but similar frame. As you progress in the sport and move to more modern road bikes and equipment I hope you will find that, as many of us on these pages have, there is something magical with the old steel frames that the newer bikes just don't have. Enjoy your bike and welcome aboard.
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thanks, it rides great. I just found out it was that small because it was custom made for my grandfather. as for the watter bottle and pump pegs I didnt put them on they were there from my grandfather but i will be sure to take them off.
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Porkito, I can not tell you the model of your Marinoni just that you have a very nice vintage bike. The components seem to be all Campy Super Record, which are very desirable, and the frame looks to be Columbus SL.
All in all you have got really nice little bike, and as long as it fits you, it should work well for you. I think you will find that riding on the road will greatly improve you mountain bike riding. Judging by how you have the bike set up it looks like you may be outgrowing the frame soon. I recomend you hang on the components from this bike and transfer them to a larger but similar frame. As you progress in the sport and move to more modern road bikes and equipment I hope you will find that, as many of us on these pages have, there is something magical with the old steel frames that the newer bikes just don't have. Enjoy your bike and welcome aboard.
yea it fits me perfect right now, im 5' 2 1/2"

and yea although the Bianchi is not as good as this bike(says the bike mechanic) it is a bigger frame size. Unfortunatly i cant keep it because my cousin needs it to bike to work for this summer. My dad actually drove it over this morning( they live a couple hours away) would i be able to transfer the componets over to a more modern frame or are the parts to old?

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Can't help with the model but just want to tell you that that is one beautiful bike !!!!!
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Can't help with the model but just want to tell you that that is one beautiful bike !!!!!
Thankyou, apparently my grandfather new a good bike when he saw one!
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"would i be able to transfer the componets over to a more modern frame or are the parts to old?"


You could put most of the parts on to a newer frame. You run into problems with the bottom bracket and possibly with the front derailluer - some clamp on and some use a mounting tab. The wheels can be an issue too because more modern frames are wider at the rear axel area. Your best bet would be to just continue moving the parts to larger frames of this vintage. They aren't that hard to find, and you can make enough money from the sale of the smaller frame to cover the cost of the new one. Just be sure your bottom bracket size is the same and most importantly check with your mom and dad before you do anything.
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Zefal pump peg... it's bound to ruin the Columbus decal underneath it.
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Old 05-31-08, 03:57 PM   #11
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so, what's left of the Bianchi? Pictures?
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i was about to take pictures of the bianchi and show you guys but like i said my dad just took it over to my cousins early this morning
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Does anyone else have any ideas about which model this is?
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I'm not a Marinoni expert, but they are still in business. Ask 'em (send some pictures...)

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Yes, it's very decent. I can't tell you what specific model Marinoni it is (but one of the C&V folks surely will) except that it's Columbus SL tubing and looks to be very well made...should ride like a champ. Couple small notes: judging by the seat height it looks like it might be a little small for you, and if you are growing you'll probably outgrow it, enjoy it while you can and prepare to send it to a new home in good condition (plenty of women are hunting for nice bikes like this in this size range).
That water bottle is jammed in the cage, it's the wrong size and looks uncomfortable: set it free.
I know this is picky, but I've never liked those plastic Zefal pump pegs, and it's bound to ruin the Columbus decal underneath it. I like Zefal pumps just fine, but get any brand pump you like that fits the frame and dump that plastic peg.
If the Bianchi is a larger sized frame, hold it in reserve and maybe you can do a parts swap to that one when it's time to move up (in size that is).


you and a couple guys said judging by the seat size it looks small. How do you know this i always thought the seat was susposed to be over the handlebars anyway.
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Is it just me or is the front wheel smaller? If you ever want to get rid of it I am a Marinoni aficionado. Please let me the serial number and I will tell you the year of the bike. It will be on the Bottom of the bottom bracket shell. I should date between 1985 and 1991, with my guess at 1988 +/- 1yr based on what I have seen.

What you have is a Marinoni Special. Back then when all the bikes were hand made by Guiseppe himself you ordered a road bike and if you had the money you got a special or a plain model. A special used a blend of the best columbus available based on customer size, weight, and intended use. On a bike this size it is almost certainly completely columbus SL with campagnolo drop outs. The special is denoted by the finer lug filing and fancier seatstay caps. You have a very nice bike (much nicer than the Bianchi which I don't even have to see to know the Marinoni surpasses it in quality).
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you and a couple guys said judging by the seat size it looks small. How do you know this i always thought the seat was susposed to be over the handlebars anyway.
it does not look to small currently but based on traditional sizing if you end up having to change the post out because it is not long enough you will know you have outgrown the frame. Judging by the look of the frame which I guess to be in the 47-49cm c-c range I guess it was built for someone 5'2" to 5'4"

To be specific, this was a top notch road bike in the early to mid 1980s. By mid 1990s the components had advanced by leaps and bounds. I have a bike equipped with the same components which I ride a couple times a month for fun on nice days. While the quality is excellent you will find this bike is heavy and the shifting cumbersome compared to modern bikes. I say ride it but do not abuse it. If you decide you want to peruse road cycling in a more serious way I would purchase a new bike as you will end up wearing parts out and this bike will lose its collectible appeal as parts get changed and worn out. You can always keep this one as a family heirloom to be enjoyed occasionally and passed to your grandson.
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Ummmm....I dunno about all the recommendations to sell the frame and keep the components...

We have a bike that belonged to my grandfather. An old Rudge. None of us ride it, but we won't sell it. It has value as something that belonged to him. Now that he's gone, his stuff has real value. if you sell that bike, or parts of that bike, you may live to regret it some day, and good luck ever getting it back. I say use it until you grow out of it. Even if you put the components on a larger sized frame, keep the original frame so that you can put the bike back to how grandpa had it when it was his.
Then let your son learn on that bike some day. That's how we do it in my family anyway. I learned to ride on my father's old Puch Brigadier. It was his first road bike, and it was my first road bike as well. It will also be my son's first road bike some day if I have anything to say about it.
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it does not look to small currently but based on traditional sizing if you end up having to change the post out because it is not long enough you will know you have outgrown the frame. Judging by the look of the frame which I guess to be in the 47-49cm c-c range I guess it was built for someone 5'2" to 5'4"

To be specific, this was a top notch road bike in the early to mid 1980s. By mid 1990s the components had advanced by leaps and bounds. I have a bike equipped with the same components which I ride a couple times a month for fun on nice days. While the quality is excellent you will find this bike is heavy and the shifting cumbersome compared to modern bikes. I say ride it but do not abuse it. If you decide you want to peruse road cycling in a more serious way I would purchase a new bike as you will end up wearing parts out and this bike will lose its collectible appeal as parts get changed and worn out. You can always keep this one as a family heirloom to be enjoyed occasionally and passed to your grandson.
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Just to echo ... that bike is a lovely thing. Many of us here would like to luck into such a bike.

Enjoy it and take very good care of it (i.e., keep it dry, clean and oil (oil! NOT WD-40) the chain, and take it in for a tune-up every year.) That's a great thing to have from your grandfather.

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Well so you've heard it from a Marinoni fan and expert, it's a Special and definitely worth keeping and taking care of. The wheels look to be both the same size to me. I thought that the seatpost looks to be just about at the "limit line" and as you grow (I know I was growing at 14) you'll eventually need more post, which really means you need a bigger frame. I detect a little bit of rust on the exterior, so I'd strongly recommend you spray the INTERIOR with JP Wiegle's Framesaver...this bike is worth it.
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That's a beautiful Vintage bike. How about some pics of the Bianchi if you get a chance? Your bike mechanic is probably right about the Marinonni being the better bike, but some old Bianchi's have value also.
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