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Old 05-31-08, 10:26 PM   #1
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Palo Alto bike frame and parts

After sitting in the attic all these years, I decided to bring it down as a project for my 10 year old and I to put together when I realized it didn't have rims, sprocket, and many other parts. The Bike actually came from my mother-in-law who brought it home after her brother passed. Enough history.
I don't know what it's worth (if any) and would like to know from the experts. The frame is in great condition, at least a 9 out of 10 for rating. It's red with green/yellow labeling. It has one pedal crank, both pedals, and several other parts. If anybody can help or is interested in buying it, please feel free to contact me.

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Old 05-31-08, 10:40 PM   #2
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Hard to tell anything about the bike without pics. if you can, you shpuld post some pics so people can get an idea of what you have.

Also, there is a thread (or two) about Palo Alto bikes here, you can find them through the search function. From the sound of it, the fact that it's missing a few things shouldn't be any deterrent at all for you and your son. to build a project together.

If Bigbossman posts a pic of his Palo Alto build, you'll see why you might want to build it up rather than sell it.
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If Bigbossman posts a pic of his Palo Alto build, you'll see why you might want to build it up rather than sell it.
Naw..... I've spammed you guys enough with pictures of that thing. >toe in sand<

I'd love to see pics of the frameset, though. Chuck, any chance you're in the SF Bay Area?
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Old 05-31-08, 11:42 PM   #4
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Bigbossman,

I had no idea after all these years what kind of bike was in the attic. The irony of all this is I have three boys, 8,10, and 13. My middle boy is grounded to his room for a week (he's a huge project type kid, task oriented) and I thought this would be a great time to assemble it together until he gains privileges to access the garage to apply the needed grease. Well, he and my youngest broke our digital camera and my oldest broke the camcorder which also takes still photos. So I will need to ask a neighbor to get the pics posted. And by the way, if this worth something (not in terms of money, I don't need it), it needs to go to someone who can appreciate it, not end up like the cameras or other belongings...for boys will be boys and that will be it's destiny.

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By the way, I'm in Vancouver Wa.
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Old 05-31-08, 11:48 PM   #6
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Naw..... I've spammed you guys enough with pictures of that thing. >toe in sand<
What, this old thing?

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Anther link to a thread about Palo Alto bikes.

If you use the search the forums function at the top of this page, using the search term Palo Alto, and limit your search to the Classic & Vintage forum, you'll come up with other relevant threads.

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That's georgeous! I'd be proud of that one. There is no way ours would be that beautiful, or remain that nice. Plus, no here is as interested in cycles like these as you all are.
I must hit the hay but I'll try to get some photos for everyone asap.

Thanks for all the reply's

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The earliest Palo Alto frames were, I believe, made by Tom Ritchey, If it were one of those I'd think it'd be quite valuable. After that they were made in Italy. They were always well thought of for the price, probably better made than the traditional production frame.
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I would love to own a palo alto... is that what you mean by worth? My LBS has a silver and green one that I covet.

The early frames were ritchey-made.
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...... And by the way, if this worth something (not in terms of money, I don't need it), it needs to go to someone who can appreciate it, not end up like the cameras or other belongings...for boys will be boys and that will be it's destiny.
Monetary worth: Hard to say without detailed pics. In general a complete, all original, pristine example would be worth quite a few bucks. Just a frame set in good condition would probably fetch between $100-$250, depending on condition, size, additional parts, etc.

Appreciative worth: The Palo Alto frame-set I built up is a very satisfying bike to ride. Of the four bikes I own, it is my favorite (but the Cinelli has not been completed, yet). It has fairly aggressive geometry, but is a nice all-day rider. Sort of like being on the back of a dragonfly, it flits down the road, is a rocket coming out of the corners, and is a stable and comfortable cruiser on the flats.

The downside to these bikes is that, at least on my example, the paint is on the fragile side. One has to be very mindful about handling it, leaning it, racking it, etc. The paint chips very easily. Probably not suitable for boys, unless you don't mind it getting banged up.

Again.... I'd like to see it. Do you happen to know what size it is?

Flip the bike on its' back, and look at the bottom bracket shell. Tell us what it says. There should be a single number stamped on the drive side, a "Made in Italy" rectangle in the center, and a very stylized "BMZ" on the non-drive side.

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Hi Chuck,

I'm in Portland and if you decide you want to pass it on I'd love to take a look at it. If you think someone there would appreciate it, though, I suggest working on it with your son and keeping it. I doubt there could be a much more rewarding week of being grounded.

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Yep, I'm also in Portland and threw my hat in the ring and PMed you too.

Looks like he'll have no trouble finding a buyer.
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Ok all I have a few pics to upload, I'll just need a few minutesto figure out how to do it on this site.

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Hopefully, these pics help determine what you all wanted to know about the bike. If not, let me know what specifically needs to be shot. On the underside, it's has the number 55 stamped on it and (BMZ ?) or something close to that. It's been stored in the original bubble wrap packaging and box
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I can't see the pics can anyone assist me how to upload them?

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You click on "Manage Attachments" in the "Attach Files" box below the text entry box. When the window comes up you hit "Browse" and find the file. Then you also have to click the "Upload" button next to the box as well. Once you've done that for the files you want, you can close the box. My guess is you got everything but that last step, pressing "Upload".

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You can either attach them when you make a post, or if you have them hosted somewhere (e.g., photobucket), you can use html code to upload them directly into your post.

i.e., like this: [img]with a pic address inserted here[/img].
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This doesn't seem like the right bike for a 10 year old, at least not the ones I've known. As you pointed out, based on the cameras, probably not yours either. Most 10 year olds want mountain bikes, don't have any friends who ride road bikes, and if they ride a road bike at all, will abuse it, more out of ignorance or just being a kid than anything else. A bike like this isn't meant to hop curbs, throw onto bike racks or drop on a friend's sidewalk when you show up to play with Lego. If you think one of your sons might eventually enjoy the bike, I'd just hold onto it for a few more years. Heaven knows they go by quickly. And you do live in a beautiful part of the country for riding. Otherwise, I'd try to place it with someone who will care for it and appreciate it. As you've already seen, those people aren't difficult to find.
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Hi Karl

Actually, I clicked "manage attachments" many times but nothing happened. So I attempted to drag them into this box I'm writing in now which asked about "Active X" and I continued to attach them that way. My son is on the computer doing homework, so I'll try it again when he's done.

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Can I just email them to someone who is able to post them? Manage Attachments is not showing a browse when I click it.

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I will PM you my email address. Check your "Private Messages" at the upper right hand corner of the page, below where it says "Welcome, cvelkins01."
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Hopefully, these pics help determine what you all wanted to know about the bike. If not, let me know what specifically needs to be shot. On the underside, it's has the number 55 stamped on it and (BMZ ?) or something close to that. It's been stored in the original bubble wrap packaging and box

Sounds like a 55cm BMZ made frame to me.
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"Sounds like a 55cm BMZ made frame to me"

Bigbossman,

Can you translate that statement to me? 55cm I think goes without saying but does it convey anything else I may not be aware of?
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Here are the pics Chuck emailed to me for upload (I had to upload them to Flickr because the files were too large to attach):

Palo Alto Bike
Palo Alto Head Tube
Palo Alto Down Tube
Palo Alto Seat Tube
Palo Alto Seat Cluster
Palo Alto Rear

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