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    Puch Brigadier / Shimano 500 Derailleur

    Two weekends ago, I found this vintage Puch at a yardsale for 2 bucks! The bolts and chrome were slightly rusty but i managed to sandpaper most of it off. (Hopefully that's not bad for the bicycle?) Other than that the components and such is in pretty good shape. However i could not find literally any info on this bicycle anywhere including these forums. I was wondering if you guys know anything about it. Well the only thing I wanted to know about is the derailleurs. Most of the parts are either Japanese- Sakae, and Swiss- Weinnman. The rear derailleur says Shimano 500 and the front says Shimano 50 and absolutely nothing came up in searches. It also has a Puch 100 year decal on it and is made of Special Puch Tubing 482. Here are some images.





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    Front derailleur

    I also plan on putting a new saddle on it as the current one is pretty beat up. It also needs new handlebar tape which I plan on using Ambrosio Ribbon but I can't decide on a color so help me out! Oh, one last thing, it used to have secondary brake levers or bar top levers, not really sure of its technical term. Why do most people prefer to not have them? I decided to remove mine after seeing that absolutely no one had them on their bicycles.

    PS. Any other Brigadier owners out there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryle View Post
    Oh, one last thing, it used to have secondary brake levers or bar top levers, not really sure of its technical term. Why do most people prefer to not have them? I decided to remove mine after seeing that absolutely no one had them on their bicycles.

    PS. Any other Brigadier owners out there?
    Most people don't use them because they aren't as good at braking as the actual levers, hence they are often referred to as "suicide levers"

    Sorry I don't know anything about the bike.
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    Nice bike for $2! You can get all the rest of that rust off with a wadding compound. I use Nev'r Dull, available for $4 from just about any auto parts store. It won't scuff up your parts like sandpaper. Just rub the parts a lot and then rub down with a cloth rag according to the directions.

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    +1 for the nev'r dull

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    I have my father's 1973 Puch Brigadier. I love it. Handles like a dream!!!! I think i have officially stolen it from him at this point, but shhhhhh...he doesn't know.
    WHen i get home and take a look, i'll tell you more about the components.

    BTW, Since I'm a nice guy, I'll take it off your hands for $6. That's 3x what you paid for it. Whattaya say?

    I'll even pay for shipping.

    You have an awesome bike there. Now your job is to go wear out as many sets of tires as you can.

    ETA:
    By the way, mine does not have the suicide bars. Those may not be OEM on your bike.
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    "Suicide" levers, the name is enough to keep them off my handlebars.
    3x the price i paid is tempting heh. Too bad the need tires and tubes cost me 25x the bike itself.
    I'll have to check out the nev'r dull. Thanks!

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    This bike handles so well it should be illegal.
    It's strong, fast, light and just feels alive....ooohhh...I haven't ridden it since last fall....I want to ride the Puch again.

    I just went down to my basement, and took some pics of my Brigadier. Please excuse it's saddle-less state. I had to steal the saddle for another bike. It wasn't original anyway. The paint on this bike leaves something to be desired. It looks like yours is in much better condition.

    Front shot
    Side shot.

    My derailleurs are Suntour so I can't help you there.
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    Oh, and seriously, if for some reason you don't like it, and if it's the right size for me, I'd be happy to take it off you for a reasonable price.
    I normally don't make offers like that, but because a Puch was my dad's first road bike, and his became my first road bike, it could be cool if we both ride vintage Puchs together.

    But hey, that's only if you don't like yours for some reason. Now go enjoy it!!! I don't expect to hear from you.
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    Ooh, I'm loving the white and red color combo. some of your decals look to be in very nice shape. The Puch's and the headbadge seem spotless. My decals are kinda coming off.

    Yeah this bike is a keeper and it fits perfectly from what i have measured. It's my first real road bike. I've only really ridden my father's French decal-less road. I'm a bit bummed i can't ride it today because I was triple jumping yesterday and my body is dead. Plus its high 80s today.

    Ah, got another question, these bikes aren't really meant to be exposed to the elements outside correct? I wanted to bring it to college but after seeing a ton of rusted bikes on campus, i'm guessing it's not a good idea.

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    Yeah the decals (except for where it actually says "brigadier") are pretty darn good. Even the sticker from the bike shop on Coney Island where my dad bought the bike is nice.
    Nice that it fits you perfectly. Enjoy it. It is indeed a keeper.

    I don't ride any of my steel bikes in the rain, and certainly don't let them sit outside. I like 'em too much.

    High 80's. You wimp!!!!
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    Man, one of these would go well with my 1974 Puch 175cc Six Days Enduro motorcycle.

    I seem to have an unending affection for Austrian workmanship.

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    Quick, white or yellow handlebar tape? Or another color?

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    So i finally rewrapped my handlebars. I feel like i did a pretty terrible job since i had leftovers on the right side but not the left side... How did I do on my first wrap ever?




    I'm loving this bicycle. Time to find a old school white saddle and I will never be able to part from this thing.

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    That's great. What a find!

    I don't have a Brigader, but I do ride a 1983 Austro-Daimler/Puch. AD labels and a Puch head badge.
    That's gonna leave a mark.

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    Not terrible for a first time bar wrap. It just takes a little practice. The two short pieces are for the brake lever clamp. Looks like you missed those but its no big deal.
    You got the right color. White is perfect. Top it off with a classic white saddle and you're set.

    Enjoy your new ride.

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    Ah yeah, I know about the two lever tapes. I don't have brake hoods so i felt like it would have been weird to put them on so i left them off. Yeah, I'm on a tight budget being a college kid and it seems like I won't be able to find a classic white saddle for a decent price, well affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryle View Post
    Ah yeah, I know about the two lever tapes. I don't have brake hoods so i felt like it would have been weird to put them on so i left them off. Yeah, I'm on a tight budget being a college kid and it seems like I won't be able to find a classic white saddle for a decent price, well affordable.
    I feel your pain on the hunt for a white saddle. One has to go pretty high to find a new one, and they never seem to pop up on CL around my area.

    Your Puch is a great find, and you cleaned her up well. Enjoy your miles!

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    However i could not find literally any info on this bicycle anywhere including these forums. I was wondering if you guys know anything about it.

    Puch is an Austrian based company that makes mopeds among other things. Shortly after this brand hit the U.S. we carried the line in a shop I worked in about 1976 or '77. The idea was that Puch would be able to establish it's brand identity in the U.S. through bicycles, since there was at the time (era of cheap gas!) almost no market for mopeds. Puch was the entry level to mid-level brand and Austro-Daimler was their upper end brand. Puch had a tough time of it since they were competing with more well known brands such as Schwinn, Fuji, Nishiki, Raleigh, Motobecane, Peugeot etc. There was nothing wrong with their product, just fierce competition at a time when cycling in the U.S. was not nearly as popular as it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Pedale View Post
    However i could not find literally any info on this bicycle anywhere including these forums. I was wondering if you guys know anything about it.

    Puch is an Austrian based company that makes mopeds among other things. Shortly after this brand hit the U.S. we carried the line in a shop I worked in about 1976 or '77. The idea was that Puch would be able to establish it's brand identity in the U.S. through bicycles, since there was at the time (era of cheap gas!) almost no market for mopeds. Puch was the entry level to mid-level brand and Austro-Daimler was their upper end brand. Puch had a tough time of it since they were competing with more well known brands such as Schwinn, Fuji, Nishiki, Raleigh, Motobecane, Peugeot etc. There was nothing wrong with their product, just fierce competition at a time when cycling in the U.S. was not nearly as popular as it is now.
    Puch also has a long history of producing motorcycles as well. Many of teh road models were sold in teh US, some badged as Sears AllStates. From around 175 thru 1975 they tried to crack the US market in the off road racing scene. The guy who was the North American distribution manager is a friend of mine, and I have one of his Puch off road bikes.

    The Marque has a long, and storied, history in motor sports in Europe. I really didn't realize they had a bicycle line until recently. I think I need one. N+(insert power of magnitude)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryle View Post
    Ah yeah, I know about the two lever tapes. I don't have brake hoods so i felt like it would have been weird to put them on so i left them off.
    Oh that's no problem. Here is one of my former bikes with the same Ambrosio tape. No hoods, but with the two little strips installed.



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    Puch Bicycles 1977 catalog

    I scanned in a 6 pg booklet of models, pictures, and short descriptions of the Puch bicycles line in 1977.
    Puch1977Bicycles

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