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Old 02-16-12, 01:37 PM   #476
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If anyone in the US (specifically SoCal) is looking for a Zieleman, 57cm and kind of expensive:

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bik/2845108492.html

More details in the 'Different Zieleman' thread.
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@humanreisberg Can't PM you. Apparently I don't have enough posts yet.. haha. So here it goes:

Obviously he's saying that a scan of the decal mask is not possible. I think he hasn't got a scanner or something. However, he says it's possible to send you the masks of the decals, so you can spray paint them. He is not sure how it works with mail and the costs, For now he is going to see if he can make a picture of the masks and send them to you. Also he gives you greetings. Also his last name is 'vrolijk' which means cheerfull.

If you need any help with postage or anything, msg me!
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Old 02-18-12, 03:32 PM   #478
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^ ^

LOL, Sounds like the same nice guy whom last month I gave my Presto frame to have it repainted ( he told me he recently got all kinds of requests from all over the world )
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Old 02-18-12, 03:49 PM   #479
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If anyone in the US (specifically SoCal) is looking for a Zieleman, 57cm and kind of expensive:

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bik/2845108492.html

More details in the 'Different Zieleman' thread.
That is a nice old model but indeed a little bit expensive. Although the last couple of months I saw Zielemans are being offered for similar amounts on marktplaats. (actually I don't think they get sold for those amounts)
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Old 02-18-12, 04:16 PM   #480
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I don't know whether it is expensive. Try to find another one of the same age, in similar shape, full Campy and than also cheaper. You probably won't and it is even less likely if you are on the otherside of the globe.
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I have a guest this week. She is a recent era Vittorio Strada. The frame is fillet brazed with Columbus Life tubing. The design looks traditional in the the toptube is level, but the drop shape downtube is not from yesteryear. The modernish groupset with carbon comes from Campagnolo. The bikes rides really well. Responsive and it corners quickly, but as on a rails.

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Old 02-23-12, 04:56 AM   #482
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That's a very pretty bike, nice understated design. I didn't knew that Zonda's also came in non-radial version on the front.
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As modern bikes go, this is about as good as it gets. I must admit it is really a pleasure to behold. The first bike with black tires that I actually like. Thanks for sharing it.
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Batavus Blues

Another blue Batavus Professional crossed my path today and wasn't quick enough. Interesting mix of parts: Dura-Ace cranks, Stronglight headset, Campagnolo shifters (two different ones) and front wheel and hub, Matrix rear wheel with 105 hub, Superbe RD and brakes, Cinelli bar and stem.

Anyone know what year this is? S/n is 9561.









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That's pretty nice Mel...

So, does it give you bad thoughts???

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I have a guest this week. She is a recent era Vittorio Strada. The frame is fillet brazed with Columbus Life tubing. The design looks traditional in the the toptube is level, but the drop shape downtube is not from yesteryear. The modernish groupset with carbon comes from Campagnolo. The bikes rides really well. Responsive and it corners quickly, but as on a rails.

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That's pretty nice Mel...

So, does it give you bad thoughts???
Nope ...I have no bikes younger than 1996 and it will stay like that.
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Another blue Batavus Professional crossed my path today and wasn't quick enough. Interesting mix of parts: Dura-Ace cranks, Stronglight headset, Campagnolo shifters (two different ones) and front wheel and hub, Matrix rear wheel with 105 hub, Superbe RD and brakes, Cinelli bar and stem.

Anyone know what year this is? S/n is 9561.
I think the system of Batavus number is like this:

digit for year - size - the number you mention
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I think the system of Batavus number is like this:

digit for year - size - the number you mention
Of course. I should have remembered that. Thanks. Oh, it's an '87 BTW
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I have a guest this week. She is a recent era Vittorio Strada. The frame is fillet brazed with Columbus Life tubing. The design looks traditional in the the toptube is level, but the drop shape downtube is not from yesteryear. The modernish groupset with carbon comes from Campagnolo. The bikes rides really well. Responsive and it corners quickly, but as on a rails.

That is a really nice modern bike.
I was looking at the Vittorio website because of this picture and Vittorio looks to be a gigantic bikeshop. Is it interesting enough to pay it a visit sometime, and will there be some older handbuild bikes to look at?
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Vittorio has a display of 10-20 classic Vittorios on the 1st floor. It includes very interesting bikes, like a 50s foldable competition bike, an aerodynamic bike, track en stayer bikes and even a bike for pole expiditions.
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Ok It certainly sounds like a good place to visit when i'm in the neighborhood.
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I have a guest this week. She is a recent era Vittorio Strada. The frame is fillet brazed with Columbus Life tubing. The design looks traditional in the the toptube is level, but the drop shape downtube is not from yesteryear. The modernish groupset with carbon comes from Campagnolo. The bikes rides really well. Responsive and it corners quickly, but as on a rails.

The frame design looks very much like my Duell - drop-shaped bottomtube - short, flat topped aggressive design, carbon fork - though my Duell is made from Dedacciai 12,5 steel. Any connection between them or is this just the way it is done in the modern age of steel bike building?







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Can't see your pics

Apart from that they are both modern Handmade in Holland bikes, there is no connection.

Duell uses welding as joining method, but Duell has a history with lugs. Vittorio still chooses for lugs or fillet brazing. Duell does only competition level roadbikes, while Vittorio's core business is randonneurs. Next to that they do tandems, roadbikes, speciality bikes and more.
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Mel...Is that Vittorio fillet brazed? Any close-ups of the joints??

TIA

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Apart from that they are both modern Handmade in Holland bikes, there is no connection.

Duell uses welding as joining method, but Duell has a history with lugs. Vittorio still chooses for lugs or fillet brazing. Duell does only competition level roadbikes, while Vittorio's core business is randonneurs. Next to that they do tandems, roadbikes, speciality bikes and more.
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@humanreisberg: i might have tracked down some period correct Presto decals for you if you are still interested.

It won't be necessary for my own Presto because the painter just finished the frame and did a truly terrific job. It looks bright and shiny and he even kind of renovated the siver panels for me.
The fork is being rechromed at the moment which will take another couple of weeks but i am getting patient and hopefully also thorough with rebuilding this one.
It helps having the first signs of spring arriving this weeks and being able to have the first outings.
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There's a nice looking Duell on fleaBay. My size, but I just bought something else.

54cm Duell on the Bay
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199 usd for a frame with an obvious dent, chipping in the paint and pitting in the chrome seems a lot to me.

Btw, I have a same frame (different colour, 59 c-t) thats still for sale. And no dents ...
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And what did you buy???
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I got the Presto frame back from the painter Freek was so kind to point out to me and then rechromed the fork, so now it is ready to be rebuild.







I changed the main color from metallic red to metallic blue because i am partial to blue and silver bikes
It is a 1977 bike and I will be looking for period correct superrecord parts to build it as I have the correct pedals, Crank, 1st gen RD wheels and headset already. I will be takong my time.
Probably finish it off with white cables and white cloth bartape.

What the correct saddle would be i am not sure and I have to find out how to get some nice gumwall tires.
Help would be appreciated.
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