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    I have an automatic eBay alert for 'Zieleman,' on the chance that one will turn up there, in my size at the right price. This morning the below appeared...sorry it looks like I can drag the listing and photos over, but they get mangled. Anyway you can see that it's an appealing looking frame, nominally 55cm.

    Last one on US ebay was a 52-53cm frame, my size, but had internal cabling, chromed fork (Z pantograph) with a steep angle, just did not 'ring my bell.'

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    Looks like a Bianchi-celeste-fan went crazy on that Zieleman. Very East-Coast-Custom style. Are you considering going for this one Alan? It appears to have no engravings in the seatstaytops, but almost definitely a real Zieleman, so probably an early 70's model with original paint in either gold, red or blue-ish (I'm just guessing here).

    I'm kinda struck by the fork/headtube combo, pretty black/celeste/chrome!

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    How about this one: 1993, all kinds of weird lugs and tubes, 8 speed record... Too bad it's too big for me, and for my wallet!
    http://link.marktplaats.nl/693645482
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    Quote Originally Posted by Italuminium View Post
    How about this one: 1993, all kinds of weird lugs and tubes, 8 speed record... Too bad it's too big for me, and for my wallet!
    http://link.marktplaats.nl/693645482
    I've been eyeballing that for the past weeks... It's my size but gigantuous compared to my bankaccount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zieleman View Post
    I've been eyeballing that for the past weeks... It's my size but gigantuous compared to my bankaccount.
    yeah it's perfect for you, now just cancel the vacation and sell all your furniture, it's definitely worth it!
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    Two nice Zielemans The tall one has squarish tubing. Very interesting.
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    No, the celeste one is too big for me. Do you really think it's a repaint? Seems unlikely, it's really an extreme step, including the decals etc. Would have been expensive and/or a lot of trouble, and unlikely to repay in resale. What kind of nut would....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago Al View Post
    I have an automatic eBay alert for 'Zieleman,' on the chance that one will turn up there, in my size at the right price. This morning the below appeared...sorry it looks like I can drag the listing and photos over, but they get mangled. Anyway you can see that it's an appealing looking frame, nominally 55cm.

    Last one on US ebay was a 52-53cm frame, my size, but had internal cabling, chromed fork (Z pantograph) with a steep angle, just did not 'ring my bell.'
    Just curious, why is this a Zieleman? It looks like a 70s frame (gear cable over the bb shell) and has the same nice headlugs with circular holes in it that my c. 1975 G. Pintens (Belgian) has.
    A 70s Zieleman should have 'KZ' stamped in the seatstay caps, and the Z in the fork crown. This could be a respray + decals by Zieleman, of a generic Belgian frame IMO. Or am I missing something?

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    This past Saturday I sold the Gazelle. My wife never rode it. My daughter rode it for 1 block and I rode it for 2 blocks. I sold it for 7 times what I paid for it to a young hipster who was very happy to get it. There was a lot of interest when I had it listed.

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    It isn't classic and it isn't vintage but it is Dutch. I bought this bike this spring for my wife from a woman that brought it over from the Netherlands when she moved here a couple years ago. I got it for a ridiculously low price. I don't think there are many in the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s70rguy View Post
    Just curious, why is this a Zieleman? It looks like a 70s frame (gear cable over the bb shell) and has the same nice headlugs with circular holes in it that my c. 1975 G. Pintens (Belgian) has.
    A 70s Zieleman should have 'KZ' stamped in the seatstay caps, and the Z in the fork crown. This could be a respray + decals by Zieleman, of a generic Belgian frame IMO. Or am I missing something?
    Those holes were put into lugs of many bikes, I've seen them on (real) De Reus', Plum Vainqueur, Visser and Zieleman bikes from the late 60's and early 70's. I don't know if these lugs came from the factory that way, or it was the easiest way to make them lighter/upgrade esthetics.
    Also, not every Zieleman has the engravings you refer to. In fact, I (and a few other people we all know that own a few Zieleman bikes) have never seen two Zieleman frames that had the exact same frame properties. It was always a custom order and the optional braze-ons, engravings, lugs and paint-jobs (chrome and such) were so variable and evolved through time, that they are almost always (slightly) different. Though a paintjob like in the above celeste-black-chrome is unprecedented for sure and looks very American (to me), especially the black area surrounding the seattube decal and the headtube/fork combo. The headtube decal has an extra surrounding circle which I've never seen before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Italuminium View Post
    How about this one: 1993, all kinds of weird lugs and tubes, 8 speed record... Too bad it's too big for me, and for my wallet!
    http://link.marktplaats.nl/693645482
    Interesting tubing, I have never these before. I do have similar lugs for my next frame.
    Btw, those are Chorus, not Record parts.
    Lucky it is to small for me, or I would have an angry wife

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulkal View Post
    Interesting tubing, I have never these before. I do have similar lugs for my next frame.
    Btw, those are Chorus, not Record parts.
    Lucky it is to small for me, or I would have an angry wife
    yes, the tubing is something special, I've only seen it on some Colnago's and a Rossin online, though never in person. I'd like to see this bike in person though, and the seller is local to me so if anyone from here buys it, please invite me for a ride when you get it

    And good call on the components.
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    Really like that celeste black paint scheme. Unfortunately not my size. High bids. The squarish slx tubing looks like the gilco tubes of my colnago master. Really Nice frame also but a disgusting paint scheme imo and i prefer original paint jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woutervanwijk View Post
    really like that celeste black paint scheme. fortunately not my size. High bids. The squarish slx tubing looks like the gilco tubes of my colnago master. Really nice frame also but a disgusting paint scheme imo and i prefer original paint jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
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    That said, you could probably ride that 59 Zieleman just fine! Tempted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Italuminium View Post
    That said, you could probably ride that 59 Zieleman just fine! Tempted?
    No. At that pricepoint I'd want it to be closer to my size, i.e. 62-64 cm. And not have Pick-Up letters on the DT.
    Clunker or not, it's gotta have gears!

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    Alright, so I got myself a 'modern' bike... It's an old team bike from the (Foreldorado-?) Golff team from 1998. It was the bike that belonged to Jan van Velzen, nephew of good old Keetie van Oosten-Hage. Now, I can't seem to find a lot of info on the Ti-Gazelles of this model or the team. So I'm hoping to get some of you guys. I do know that TVM and another Dutch team rode these Ti Gazelles.

    btw Did I go too far on this one? In my eyes, the history of the bike and the 'exotic' material makes it kinda classic and even a little vintage. Feel free to give your honest thoughts on this... I think I can take a beating
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    last pic is Jan van Velzen on the left

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    ^^^Pictures not loading, would love to see it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by buldogge View Post
    ^^^Pictures not loading, would love to see it!
    Not loading? Go figure, I'm such a noob! You can also find it on my velospace: http://velospace.org/node/46910

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    Interesting bike, Zieleman! There can't be many of those around. A classic for sure.
    Clunker or not, it's gotta have gears!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zieleman View Post
    Not loading? Go figure, I'm such a noob! You can also find it on my velospace: http://velospace.org/node/46910
    They are loading now for some reason and I like this bike's geometry (not so much the colourscheme but from the looks of the jerseys from the other guys on the last pic it could be worse ) Let's say it was a very colourful period.
    I don't know to much about the properties of Titanium bikes, is this a stiff frame or is it just like a topclass steel frame but a little lighter ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pullup View Post
    They are loading now for some reason and I like this bike's geometry (not so much the colourscheme but from the looks of the jerseys from the other guys on the last pic it could be worse ) Let's say it was a very colourful period.
    I don't know to much about the properties of Titanium bikes, is this a stiff frame or is it just like a topclass steel frame but a little lighter ?
    Haha those outfits are hilarious! I only noticed them just now, even when they're as loud as they are. I bet they're hanging at Waterloo square as we speak.


    the ride reminds me a little of the only alu bike I've ridden (my Stevens), but that's after just a 50k ride at low speed. I took a little sprint and it feels quite a bit faster than my steel oldies and it's definitely stiffer. It's not uncomfortable, but I'm certainly doing a back&neck stretch before riding this on longer rides!

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    regarding the Gazelle:

    Plus
    horizontal top tube
    real metal frame
    quill stem

    Minus
    straight fork
    seat clamp

    I'd say Good to Go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf View Post
    regarding the Gazelle:

    Plus
    horizontal top tube
    real metal frame
    quill stem

    Minus
    straight fork
    seat clamp

    I'd say Good to Go.
    Thanks! I also like the history of the bike, the rarity and that it's not going to rust. The riding properties have not convinced me yet, but it's only been 50km. What I don't like about the bike is that wearing a woolen jersey is not period correct

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