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    Quote Originally Posted by no*dice View Post
    Here is my Frame. It is for Sale, cause it is to young for my C Record built up...



    More Pictures here:
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    http://www.classicbikeshop.eu/frame-...e-details.html

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    that gazelle is beautiful but don't have the $$

    here's my puprle champion mondial (again!) - finally completely happy with it...


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    Good Ride! Do not know about the purpel HS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20grit View Post
    I'll throw in mine, though it's not at all complete. I'm slowly accumulating parts; I'm hoping for a suntour superbe pro with barcons build.



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/24428532@N06/4521448939/

    a link to the gallery. In there is a photo of the Zeus 2000 fork crown I was asked about a while back. Someone has filed off the top of the seat tube's lug, and there's quite a bit of rust in a few places. I'm pondering reshaping that lug and a repaint, opinions would be more than welcome.
    Nice, but not in garage queen or concours winning condition ...yet! You could do some filing on the seatlug. I do not know who does proper Gazelle repaints on the other side of the pond. I do know Cyclomondo's eBay shop has decals available.

    On the cable guides on the toptube: I have never seen that variation before

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldmuthariley View Post
    that gazelle is beautiful but don't have the $$

    here's my puprle champion mondial (again!) - finally completely happy with it...

    That is a nice ride. Without any doubt a well functioning enjoyable rider ...& that looks good too! Personally I tend to like the quirky touch you've added with the pinkish CK.

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    20grit,

    I now see that next to the already quite rare Zeus crown fork and the oddball guides your frame possesses more very interesting detailing: long rear dropouts (A-frame) with the 'X' shape reinforment between the chainstay (AA-frame)


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    while hanging arround in 123, I found a brand called "Duell", still producing Steelframes...

    http://www.duell.nl/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elev12k View Post
    20grit,

    I now see that next to the already quite rare Zeus crown fork and the oddball guides your frame possesses more very interesting detailing: long rear dropouts (A-frame) with the 'X' shape reinforment between the chainstay (AA-frame)

    It has been a joy for me to try to identify it as well. I am really looking forward to getting it built up.. Right now, I'm threatening putting 9 speed dura ace on it. It's already not original and I could use the gears for climbing around here.

    Love the paint combination too. Then again, I love alot of the ones in this thread too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no*dice View Post
    while hanging arround in 123, I found a brand called "Duell", still producing Steelframes...

    http://www.duell.nl/
    Duell are fine 'Made in Holland' frames by Jan van Dalen. The example you show appears to be equipped with Shimano RX100, what is a little low endish for a Duell. Initially he built with lugs, but nowadays he swears by welding for his performance orientated frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20grit View Post
    It has been a joy for me to try to identify it as well. I am really looking forward to getting it built up.. Right now, I'm threatening putting 9 speed dura ace on it. It's already not original and I could use the gears for climbing around here.

    Love the paint combination too. Then again, I love alot of the ones in this thread too.
    I do not think it can be identified into a model. It is pretty unique. I do also have one such a frame that doesn't fit it in a catagory.

    The combination of colours, panels and graphics is indeed well choosen. I like that about the Champion Mondials in general.

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    I've heard from more than one source that Gazelle would build up a Champion Mondial to what ever specs the customer desired (for the right price most likely). I can certainly see a few dutch racers going straight to Gazelle for special request builds to suit their specific needs which would take design cues from several of the existing models and mix 'em together. Don't tell the wife, but I would like to find an early 80's of some model (Cyclocross maybe??) in Red w/ white panels to go with the white and blue Gazelles I have now. Or maybe an AA-Frame to hang my Super Record group on.

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    If I had the chance they have to built it just like that:


    I love those half painted stays and fork blades!




    ps: Gazelle Gold Line is sold!
    Last edited by no*dice; 04-20-10 at 08:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elev12k View Post
    Duell are fine 'Made in Holland' frames by Jan van Dalen. The example you show appears to be equipped with Shimano RX100, what is a little low endish for a Duell. Initially he built with lugs, but nowadays he swears by welding for his performance orientated frames.
    I agree that Duell frames are very nice. I have one that I bought in 1992, which is still almost original. It was custom made for me and is one of the most comfortable bikes I know.

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    Thats one nice Ride! Good set up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20grit View Post
    It has been a joy for me to try to identify it as well. I am really looking forward to getting it built up.. Right now, I'm threatening putting 9 speed dura ace on it. It's already not original and I could use the gears for climbing around here.

    Love the paint combination too. Then again, I love alot of the ones in this thread too.

    Wow! I'm amazed to find this. My dad's Gazelle is 100% identical to this frame/fork, just two sizes smaller. It's an AA frame with the same cable routing and chainstay/brake bridges. He told me he didn't like the standard painted fork and ordered a chromed Zeus fork instead. It seems like more people took that option.

    I've got a makeover planned for his bike involving a Campa Veloce '08 group , will post in here when I'm done with it.

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    Image of said bike. Straight from the garage, dusty and all. Components are mostly Suntour Superbe.


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    Very nice. but you know what you need to do now???? polish it up and post some high res stuff so i can drool a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elev12k View Post
    Duell are fine 'Made in Holland' frames by Jan van Dalen. The example you show appears to be equipped with Shimano RX100, what is a little low endish for a Duell. Initially he built with lugs, but nowadays he swears by welding for his performance orientated frames.
    Just for reference Ill post my non-vintage Duell Performance, specially built for some semi-pro team, and purchased second hand by me two seasons ago. This picture is from last summer. It now has new wheels and not red bottlecages. Campa Centaur group. Frame is welded Dedacciai 12.5.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/solvpile...eat=directlink



    Last edited by steinbra; 04-26-10 at 02:18 AM. Reason: No images
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    Quote Originally Posted by steinbra View Post
    Just for reference Ill post my non-vintage Duell Performance, specially built for some semi-pro team, and purchased second hand by me two seasons ago. This picture is from last summer. It now has new wheels and not red bottlecages. Campa Centaur group. Frame is welded Dedacciai 12.5.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/solvpile...eat=directlink





    Why do you think this was from a semi-pro team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s70rguy View Post
    Why do you think this was from a semi-pro team?
    The seller told me he had bought it from a friend to whom it did not fit. He himself used it for "Elite without contract level. That is just 2 steps below professionals."
    And then I contacted Duell for a colourcode of the blue, I got this answer:
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    There is no colournumber from that colour, because me mixed this colour in
    the past special for the Racing Team.

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    Dutch handcraft - the building of a RIH

    My fellow RIH-rider in Norway, Ove, showed me these links to youtube-flicks from the Amsterdam workshop. As it says in the quote at the beginning: "De mooiste fietsen komen uit de Jordaan..."





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    Quote Originally Posted by steinbra View Post
    The seller told me he had bought it from a friend to whom it did not fit. He himself used it for "Elite without contract level. That is just 2 steps below professionals."
    And then I contacted Duell for a colourcode of the blue, I got this answer:
    Dear .......,
    There is no colournumber from that colour, because me mixed this colour in
    the past special for the Racing Team.

    Sorry,
    Best Regards,
    Jan van Dalen
    I see. On the toptube is 'BCP'. BCP is the painting firm of Brady van Dalen, the brother of Jan van Dalen. They used to share the premises in 's-Gravenzande, or Hoek van Holland, I forget.
    http://www.specialpaintwork.nl/

    Maybe you could contact Brady to find out what team this was. I'm surprised Jan didn't tell you right away. I' puzzled too, the only semi-pro or elite team in that area (het Westland, where they grow tomatoes, cucmbers and flowers) is WWV (Westland Wil Vooruit), and they didn't use Duell. I think!

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    Quote Originally Posted by s70rguy View Post
    I see. On the toptube is 'BCP'. BCP is the painting firm of Brady van Dalen, the brother of Jan van Dalen. They used to share the premises in 's-Gravenzande, or Hoek van Holland, I forget.
    http://www.specialpaintwork.nl/

    Maybe you could contact Brady to find out what team this was. I'm surprised Jan didn't tell you right away. I' puzzled too, the only semi-pro or elite team in that area (het Westland, where they grow tomatoes, cucmbers and flowers) is WWV (Westland Wil Vooruit), and they didn't use Duell. I think!
    Thanks! Ill do that. Of course, I dont know if it actually did belong to a team, or how this is, and it does not really matter to me. I love the bike. It fits med quite well.
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    Lovely specimens, Elev12k. What year are the frame and the jersey?
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