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Old 10-30-11, 04:44 PM
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That's kind

On the open ends: no, not unique for Serier. Presto Model Jan Legrand with open blades >>>



It is the same for the tail.

Btw in Presto's new Heemskerk branch there is track bike on display and with that example the blade tops are open. That frame is Serier built. It has the Serier typical seat clamp slot. It is this bike >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jacques...57626613541396
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My Jan de Reus also had the open ends on the forks and seat stays.
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Does anyone know who was building frames for Presto back in 1972? Was Legrand already there? Serier? Slesker? I don't have a clue, neither did i found something like a timetable or any other stats.

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Freek has a 1972 Legrand Presto in his Wooljersey Gallery, so of Legrand we can be sure he built for Presto in '72.

https://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/...tsen/album231/
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Having some parts left after finishing my last RIH build I happened to find a nice simple Gazelle AB frame pretty cheap and in a size I always wanted to try out
So yesterday I finished this classic looking champagne-coloured 1978 model in size 52 and went out for a spin.



It turned out to be a surprisingly light bike (surprising to me anyway) and the ride is super smooth and stable.

I kind of made an effort to complement the Champagne framecolour with black, gold and red accents with the tires, the Rolls saddle, handlebar tape, Sorel toeclips and Christophe straps.
Almost exclusively Campagnolo (super)record parts, save for the levers ( for ergonomic reasons)
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Well, the effort paid off: it looks great!
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Having some parts left after finishing my last RIH build I happened to find a nice simple Gazelle AB frame pretty cheap and in a size I always wanted to try out
So yesterday I finished this classic looking champagne-coloured 1978 model in size 52 and went out for a spin.



It turned out to be a surprisingly light bike (surprising to me anyway) and the ride is super smooth and stable.

I kind of made an effort to complement the Champagne framecolour with black, gold and red accents with the tires, the Rolls saddle, handlebar tape, Sorel toeclips and Christophe straps.
Almost exclusively Campagnolo (super)record parts, save for the levers ( for ergonomic reasons)
beautiful bike! Is it the version with the butterfly brake bridge? I saw one on a Champion Mondial I restored for a friend, and I really like that nice little touch.
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beautiful bike! Is it the version with the butterfly brake bridge? I saw one on a Champion Mondial I restored for a friend, and I really like that nice little touch.
I did not know these were referred to as 'butterfly bridges' but I can see why
It certainly is a cool feature and this bike has one.

I am not sure if this was a standard Gazelle break bridge at the time.

I had to clean it again after the first ride the roads over here are pretty muddy in the fall
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thanks for the additional pics. Lovely bike!
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Don't know if I posted it before in this thread, but here is my rebuilt Cera:







Built with Veloce 9-speed group (definately not period correct), tange headset, Rolls seat, VO BPB rims (total crap, but they look nice) and Panaracer Pasela TG tires.

The frame I bought on marktplaats and Cees Raas, my uncle, had it repainted by a friend. When I showed him the frame, he said it could actually have been built by Ko Zieleman, right before my uncle started building his own frames.

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No, but it's still very nice to see it again! Very beautiful bike and probably all the more special for you because of the family connection.
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That's lush. Does it have a serial#?
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Gazelle celebrates it's 120th anniversary with a.... Champion Mondial

https://www.fiets.nl/2011/10/22/gazel...mpion-mondial/

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Nice! They should have done a 531 lugged frame though. No serial on the Cera, btw.
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Interesting. Though I'm not sure it has the same elegance as the Koga-Miyata FullPro Anniversary model that was produced in limited numbers in 1999. I came across one of them last year. So very pretty!

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Interesting gazelle, I wonder who produces them. Probably that dutch guy in Taiwan.
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Interesting. Though I'm not sure it has the same elegance as the Koga-Miyata FullPro Anniversary model that was produced in limited numbers in 1999. I came across one of them last year. So very pretty!

Wow, this is about the prettiest bike i've seen.
I like the Cera as well, pretty colorscheme.

Is it typically Dutch to name the bikes according to the first 2 characters of the builders names ? (or slight variations on that theme)
Koga, Cera, Jabo, Joco, Germi, Peka, Remi are a few that I can think of.
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Interesting. Though I'm not sure it has the same elegance as the Koga-Miyata FullPro Anniversary model that was produced in limited numbers in 1999. I came across one of them last year. So very pretty!

I also saw one last year in a bikeshop, never used. Everything on it was labeled with the 25 year label, even the chain. It was very nice. It is problably still for sale, so if anyone is interested....
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I am serious with collecting Koga Miyatas, but the 25th anniversary Limited Edition doesn't really fit within the scope of my collection. For as far I know no more Koga frames from Miyata in Japan since 1996. I don't know who built the frame for 1999 25th anniversary model. It could be a boutique builder or small high end series shop. The frame uses very decorative lugs and frame parts and is fully chromed. A while ago I had the oppertunity to acquire one. Sadly the paint had suffered severely from use and it had a non original Campagnolo group.

This 25th LE model was issued to celebrate 25 years Koga-Miyata. 100 built. The bike set you back 9.995 guilders in 1999. As it was also the same period that Shimano celebrated 25 years Dura-Ace and as ties with Shimano had always been very close, Koga acquired 100 Dura-Ace 25th anniversary groupsets for this bike. The numbers 2500 to 2599 went to Koga. The frames got the same numbering. It is present on the toptube. An article where the 25th LE meets an early 80s FullPro (a '80 FullPro-L actually) you find here.
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Interesting gazelle, I wonder who produces them. Probably that dutch guy in Taiwan.
Taiwan? I don't know, but I am afraid they didn't re-open the Dieren shop for this occassion.

Looking forward to see a special edition of the Batavus Professional some time. Steel too, built in Heerenveen
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Interesting. Though I'm not sure it has the same elegance as the Koga-Miyata FullPro Anniversary model that was produced in limited numbers in 1999. I came across one of them last year. So very pretty!

I'm normally not a Koga/Shimano guy, but I think I found my exception...
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You don't like a 1993 FullPro-L (Max), a 1984 FullPro-A (aero) or a 1980 FullPro-L??
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You don't like a 1993 FullPro-L (Max), a 1984 FullPro-A (aero) or a 1980 FullPro-L??
Yes, I do . But most Koga's I've come across like the gents luxe's or gran winners are competent and fun bikes, but they don't really trigger the "want" factor in me. Same goes for shimano, I don't really like how it looks, except for Dura Ace AX and the 25th anniversary gruppo.
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I used to think Koga was a bit like Mercedes: expensive, serious and a bit dull. Until I bought one for cheap, just to find out what the fuss was about (a 280 TE and a Gents Luxe-S respectively) and came away very much impressed. I still ride the GLS, but the Benz is gone, alas.
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Originally Posted by Elev12k
Gazelle celebrates it's 120th anniversary with a.... Champion Mondial

https://www.fiets.nl/2011/10/22/gazel...mpion-mondial/

Nice idea. One might wonder who is building these frames. For all I know the original workshop is now filled with cardboard boxes from Taiwan!
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