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    Toptube pad experiment: I'd post this on the Fixie forum...

    but I don't know those guys.....

    My experience with the fixed gear toptube pad thing is minimal. I've actually only ever seen a couple of photos of the things and never a 'real' one.

    One of my friends though, had me build a bike for him and it came time over this past few days for him to do an upgrade, off the top of his head, he asked me to make him a frame pad (and I touched his shoulder and said "Bam!! You're a frame pad").

    Given that I know nothing of the things (and the fact that I know my friends to be particularly fickle when it comes to stuff like this i.e., I make this stuff and they decide they don't want it after all. Note to self: Get better friends), along with my fear of water+dirt getting under it and destroying the steel frames finish, I spent 14 hours designing and fabricating this.

    It's made to be easily removable (so that you can clean and dry underneath it easily) and covers around 75% of the tubes circumference. Goatkin leather, hand edged and cut. Whaddya all think?





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    looks nice, and greetings from the SS and FG subforum (im a regular there). dont worry, we arnt all that mean
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    Looks good to me!

    And, as dervish says, they aren't that mean in SS/FG . In fact, there's some very nice folks over there now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dervish View Post
    looks nice, and greetings from the SS and FG subforum (im a regular there). dont worry, we arnt all that mean
    Thanks for the encouragement guys! If y'all know, would you please tell me what the design requirements are for a toptube pad? Are they usually waterproof? Are they typically, actually padded? Easy on/off? Are they like a car 'bra'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by East Hill View Post
    Looks good to me!

    And, as dervish says, they aren't that mean in SS/FG . In fact, there's some very nice folks over there now.

    East Hill
    Hi East Hill,

    I made the mistake of posting a question about toe overlap to the road forum once and was instantly and unmercifully insulted by a cadre of anti-social, runny nosed 12 year olds. Don't ever want to make that mistaek again!

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    So pardon my ignorance, but except for a single very small spot that would need to be protected by potential dings from the ends of the bars and the top tube (which might not be an issue at all if one had bullhorns), what's the function of that wrap thang? Or is function not the issue here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
    So pardon my ignorance, but except for a single very small spot that would need to be protected by potential dings from the ends of the bars and the top tube (which might not be an issue at all if one had bullhorns), what's the function of that wrap thang? Or is function not the issue here?

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    Grasshopper to grasshopper, mind you....: I believe that these are employed to protect the frame from the mounting of gigantic and heavy locking devices. This particular one though, is mounted to a bike that's far too valuable to lock up, so is there to prevent foot-over-toptube dismounting scuffs and lighter stuff falling onto the toptube while it sits at its owners house. Fashion too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg1 View Post
    Hi East Hill,

    I made the mistake of posting a question about toe overlap to the road forum once and was instantly and unmercifully insulted by a cadre of anti-social, runny nosed 12 year olds. Don't ever want to make that mistaek again!

    Danny

    They were naughty, and not being good members of the BikeForums community. If you tell me who they are, I will go terrorise them .

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    While very swanky, I'd lose the laces if you plan to market this -- takes too much patience/intelligence to manipulate (witness: shoes these days).

    I'm thinking a combination of suede (or possibly microfiber suede-alike for washability) and velcro closure. If you wrap around a few times, you can customize the cush level.

    This would be a good design exercise for the Fashion Institute of Technology. Sequins, fringe like Davy Crockett's jacket, Ninja sword swaddling with 600 year old hand-painted fabric, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg1 View Post
    Grasshopper to grasshopper, mind you....: I believe that these are employed to protect the frame from the mounting of gigantic and heavy locking devices. This particular one though, is mounted to a bike that's far too valuable to lock up, so is there to prevent foot-over-toptube dismounting scuffs and lighter stuff falling onto the toptube while it sits at its owners house. Fashion too.

    Danny
    Also, the fixed gear kids like to do lots of skids, and the padded top tube prevents getting bruises on the insides of your legs from hitting the top tube while doing them.

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    I always thought they were to keep the bars from hitting the top tube, kinda like all the dings we see from brake calipers right in front of the right DT shifter.

    I would think an inch wide pad would suffice, unless you were really into the leather thing, and then you'd want fringe on it.

    There is no need for a top tube protector on the bike pictured, and it's not a fixie anyways, as far as I can tell. Poseur? Maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy View Post
    I always thought they were to keep the bars from hitting the top tube, kinda like all the dings we see from brake calipers right in front of the right DT shifter.
    Well, in our fair city, every street bike carries its weight in chain, seemingly. Ones that look like they were originally forged to pull up the castle drawbridge. Sometimes these have a sheath, that looks like ballistic nylon that would take the paint off in a single ride. The locks, too, are serious and impressive machinery.

    Fortunately, I can keep my bike in my office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Wahl View Post
    While very swanky, I'd lose the laces if you plan to market this -- takes too much patience/intelligence to manipulate (witness: shoes these days).

    I'm thinking a combination of suede (or possibly microfiber suede-alike for washability) and velcro closure. If you wrap around a few times, you can customize the cush level.

    This would be a good design exercise for the Fashion Institute of Technology. Sequins, fringe like Davy Crockett's jacket, Ninja sword swaddling with 600 year old hand-painted fabric, etc.
    I'm more with bikesnob's Burberry plaid version, held on via a long shoelace (or at least that's what I see in the tiny photo). I'm thinking that a complicated lace job is more desirable because NY'ers are big on proving their adept-talents constantly. Take this thread for example: Why didn't I research this before I made it? Besides the 'pure ignorance' sometimes makes more interesting wheel argument, there was the fact that I assume these things are more fashion than function and research isn't in the fashion vocabulary.

    That and the fact that my friend sends me to do complex, unnecessary tasks all the time (as this ended up BTW. He hadn't thought of the 'you can't leave this thing on the steel frame when its dirty and wet' thing and, when I told him that it might also cloud the clearcoat if sand got under it he walked away, conveniently leaving out the part where he says "I don't want it". Which of course means :'I don't wanna pay you bro').

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy;6814532[I
    it's not a fixie anyways, as far as I can tell. [/I]Poseur? Maybe.
    Alright Old Fat Guy,

    Watch your mouth, dude Everybodie's a freakin' coolie boy and they're big on using the 'poseur' card. I built this machine from the ground up (and no, it's not a fixie. I'm not responsible for the shortened chain or the drive-stay bumper sticker either) and while everything I do has sarcastic humor embedded deep into its last forging, a 'poseur's' machine this could never be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg1 View Post
    Alright Old Fat Guy,

    Watch your mouth, dude Everybodie's a freakin' coolie boy and they're big on using the 'poseur' card. I built this machine from the ground up (and no, it's not a fixie. I'm not responsible for the shortened chain or the drive-stay bumper sticker either) and while everything I do has sarcastic humor embedded deep into its last forging, a 'poseur's' machine this could never be.

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    Whatever. I'd race you for pinks, and I'm old and fat.

    Still looks poseur to me, but I'm not a big city boy, and definitely not a hipster, dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy View Post
    Whatever. I'd race you for pinks, and I'm old and fat.

    Still looks poseur to me, but I'm not a big city boy, and definitely not a hipster, dude.
    That a DeRosa 35th in your sig? You sure you wanna start offering pinkies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg1 View Post
    That a DeRosa 35th in your sig? You sure you wanna start offering pinkies?

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    Not a 35th, just my daily driver. I'd race on my Rossin. Lots of climbs, 50 miles minimum. No crying allowed. 42-23 lowest gear allowed, no climbs over 15%.

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    dear people who are confused about the necessity of a top tube pad,

    I would think any bike that doesn't have a kick stand and is leaned against rails, bike racks, etc. for locking up could use a pad to protect the paint if you want one. Plus the handlebar bang factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East Hill View Post
    They were naughty, and not being good members of the BikeForums community. If you tell me who they are, I will go terrorise them .

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    East Hill? (He say's, aghast) I've never even seen you flustered, much less brought to anger. Thanks for the back up though. I'll call on you if I ever need a friend. Obverse offered to you, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy View Post
    Not a 35th, just my daily driver. I'd race on my Rossin. Lots of climbs, 50 miles minimum. No crying allowed. 42-23 lowest gear allowed, no climbs over 15%.
    Sheesh ,my friend. I'll race you anytime but you really ought to check your sarcasm recognition meter,..... dawg.

    I'll beat your ass too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeTales View Post
    dear people who are confused about the necessity of a top tube pad,

    I would think any bike that doesn't have a kick stand and is leaned against rails, bike racks, etc. for locking up could use a pad to protect the paint if you want one. Plus the handlebar bang factor.
    There is no handlebar factor involved on said bike, hence my confusion.

    If leaning it on something is the reason, why not the seat stays and seat tube, too? I see more scratches on seat stays than anywhere else.

    I think it is just some hipster thing, ATMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeTales View Post
    dear people who are confused about the necessity of a top tube pad,

    I would think any bike that doesn't have a kick stand and is leaned against rails, bike racks, etc. for locking up could use a pad to protect the paint if you want one. Plus the handlebar bang factor.
    Thank you for adding this. We really do need to better understand these alien objects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg1 View Post
    Sheesh ,my friend. I'll race you anytime but you really ought to check your sarcasm recognition meter,..... dawg.

    I'll beat your ass too!

    Danny
    Come on out to the Tour De Scottsdale in October. I'll even put you up for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyteeth View Post
    Also, the fixed gear kids like to do lots of skids, and the padded top tube prevents getting bruises on the insides of your legs from hitting the top tube while doing them.
    You mean like a low power slide and then a pothole comes up and jams the TT into your thigh? Having a hard time picturing the circumstance you're describing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy View Post
    Come on out to the Tour De Scottsdale in October. I'll even put you up for free.

    There's good old man humor in the verbiage of the above challenge. It takes real comedic talent to call the 'Tour de Scottsdale' as your preferred venue for a 'pinkies' race.

    I have even less respect for retired lawyers on Singlo's now!

    Danny
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