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    Freewheel Medic pastorbobnlnh's Avatar
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    I've been Frauded on CL!

    A member of the new forum, Schwinnbikeforum.com, posted this link to Minneapolis CL, which he felt was a little fishy.

    http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/bik/711838996.html

    I'd say! This was posted in early June.

    I found this Super Sport at the dump last July, cleaned it up, and once Sporty was back I started offering it to interested members. I really just wanted to find it a nice home and enough $ to make the time I had in cleaning it worth while.

    Last Friday it left NH on a DHL truck for IN where it is supposed to arrive tomorrow. Obviously it is nowhere near MN!

    On a stack of Bibles I swear this is my side yard!

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    I'm almost sure I understand what you're getting at. Are you saying somebody copied your photo to list a bike on Minneapolis craigslist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Order View Post
    I'm almost sure I understand what you're getting at. Are you saying somebody copied your photo to list a bike on Minneapolis craigslist?
    Exactly.
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    Flagged as prohibited. Suggest that all do the same.

    As for addressing complaints towards the fraud: sale-711838996@craigslist.org.

    EDIT: Email link dead. Address your complaints to: 612.327.5644 (Heck, he posted it, he asked for it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
    Exactly.
    So that's what New Hampshire looks like without all that snow.

    What was the tipoff that the ad was fishy?

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    Do you think it's possible that the seller just doesn't have a camera, and found a photo of a similar bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Order View Post

    What was the tipoff that the ad was fishy?
    my guess would be the fact that his bike was pictured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Order View Post
    Do you think it's possible that the seller just doesn't have a camera, and found a photo of a similar bike?
    That isn't how this courtroom works

    No disclaimer about photo origins (not to mention copyright infringement)? Guilty until proven otherwise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -holiday76 View Post
    my guess would be the fact that his bike was pictured.
    Yes, but pastorbob was tipped off by somebody else about it. So somebody else must have recognized the photo as being pastorbob's bike.

    Anyway, I'm not sure that it's entirely fraudulent. It may be as simple as someone who is selling the same bike, but doesn't have a camera. Otherwise, unless the potential buyer is long distance, the scam would collapse as soon as a local buyer shows up with cash in hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    That isn't how this courtroom works

    No disclaimer about photo origins (not to mention copyright infringement)? Guilty until proven otherwise!

    -Kurt
    Yeah, but the internets have pretty much proven that a lot of people are idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Order View Post
    Otherwise, unless the potential buyer is long distance, the scam would collapse as soon as a local buyer shows up with cash in hand.
    For that reason, I tried to email the seller to see if he was interested in my checking the bike out on Wednesday morning. Email was dead by then. Might be worth it to call and find out if it is available for local viewing though - that should settle the matter quite quickly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Order View Post
    Yeah, but the internets have pretty much proven that a lot of people are idiots.
    Hence the intelligent individual's chance for revenge.

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    I called. Just got "Todd's" voicemail. Left a message and said I would call back, which I did in about 1/2 hour, but he still did not answer (used *67 to block my number). I was going to ask if he had any other pictures he could email me.
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    Sounds like we need a Minneapolis C&Ver to go take a look at it and report back....

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    That's one nice looking yard! Much better backdrop than the obligatory white garage door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bibliobob View Post
    That's one nice looking yard! Much better backdrop than the obligatory white garage door.
    I'm not one to show off my garage door. But how about a white bike in front of an obligatory white snow pile?

    Basically the Super Sport and this bike had their pictures taken in the same place. The white bike, however is about 10 feet further from the stone wall where you see the ferns growing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Order View Post
    Yeah, but the internets have pretty much proven that a lot of people are idiots.
    I didn't know there was more than one internet.
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    This is better than getting [mod deleted] on craigslist...
    Last edited by Siu Blue Wind; 07-02-08 at 01:49 PM. Reason: inappropriate

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    Quote Originally Posted by redspoke View Post
    This is better than getting [mod deleted] on craigslist...
    Would you rather be [mod deleted] at the local bike shop? (And yes, it did happen)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
    IThe white bike, however is about 10 feet further from the stone wall where you see the ferns growing.

    I don't see no ferns growing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Order View Post
    I don't see no ferns growing.

    They're under there, I promise. About a month later the wall began to appear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Order View Post
    Do you think it's possible that the seller just doesn't have a camera, and found a photo of a similar bike?
    Even that's unacceptable in my book, as the bike being sold isn't represented there. It won't be as clean as PB's nor will it have a Brooks sitting on it.

    Not to hijack this thread, but has CL always been so scumbag-rampant, or is this an escalating occurrence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebensch View Post
    Even that's unacceptable in my book, as the bike being sold isn't represented there. It won't be as clean as PB's nor will it have a Brooks sitting on it.

    Not to hijack this thread, but has CL always been so scumbag-rampant, or is this an escalating occurrence?
    My hunch is that as CL use grows and more and more people get comfortable with it the percent of 'scum' will rise to the top. More usage equals a pool of less savvy internet users to be preyed upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redspoke View Post
    This is better than getting [mod deleted] on craigslist...
    Geez! Are Pat Robertson and Billy Graham BF members? Give me a [mod deleted] break!

    See you guys on the road.

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    What the [mod deleted] do you mean? After all, when [mod deleted] is involved, then [mod deleted] is always an issue - whether [mod deleted] means [mod deleted] to you or not. They pretend [mod deleted] in [mod deleted] of [mod deleted] is [mod deleted], but it’s always the same [mod deleted] with different [mod deleted], and consequently, [mod deleted] is nothing other than poseurism.

    Make up your own gag.

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    I have always had good luck buying things on ebay. Haven't bought anything on Craigslist yet. I also try very hard to describe and photo items I sell as accurately as possible so the buyers are happy with what they get.

    I believe most sellers are honest. This is why ebay and craigslist are popular - because the vast majority of sellers are honest.

    This thread, however, warns us that not everybody is honest. I wonder if it is a Nigerian scammer who's daytime job is sending out email that says stuff like "Dearest One; I am the wife of former oil magnate Ungambe Zimboya who trajically died in a revolt two years ago. He left $8,000,000 in an account and God willing...." "
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