brifters with old campy
08-03-08, 09:39 AM
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brifters with old campy
sorry if this has been asked before.
i'm building a new carbon pino and am waiting until fall for the new 11 speed campy.
until then i am still training with my 84 pino which people love. but of course it has downtube shifters.
has anyone used newer brifters like campy chorus with their old derailleurs? (super record)
i want the convenience of index shifting without having the buy new derailleurs just for a few months.
yes i will need a new cassette and chain
just wondering if anyone has had success with this setup.
TIA
i'm building a new carbon pino and am waiting until fall for the new 11 speed campy.
until then i am still training with my 84 pino which people love. but of course it has downtube shifters.
has anyone used newer brifters like campy chorus with their old derailleurs? (super record)
i want the convenience of index shifting without having the buy new derailleurs just for a few months.
yes i will need a new cassette and chain
just wondering if anyone has had success with this setup.
TIA
08-03-08, 07:37 PM
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Not a chance. Totally different geometry in the rear. The front might work since it is not technically indexed. Then again, if you're already considering a new cassette and chain to go with the Chorus Ergo levers, just throw in a used 10-speed Veloce rear derailleur and cables and you should be ok. I'm sure they are cheap on eBay. Do you have a wheel that takes cassettes? I would have expected a freewheel on that bike which would present a whole 'nother set of problems.
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Frank Berto says maybe in the book I was reading today. You never know. I read that somebody used to set up Simplex SX610's with Shimano six speed shifters and freewheels. The SX610 was friction only, but it had a barrel adjuster. The Super Record derailer would need a barrel adjuster, but I understand that there was one that could be added on to derailers that didn't have them when using Synchro shifters.
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Frank Berto says maybe in the book I was reading today. You never know. I read that somebody used to set up Simplex SX610's with Shimano six speed shifters and freewheels. The SX610 was friction only, but it had a barrel adjuster. The Super Record derailer would need a barrel adjuster, but I understand that there was one that could be added on to derailers that didn't have them when using Synchro shifters.
What's Frank say? I've been waiting for the 3rd edition of 'The Dancing Chain' but apparently its publication has been delayed.
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But what combination might work? 8-9-10-(11) speed Ergos - 5-6-7 speed freewheels? 8-9-10-(11) speed cassettes? NR/SR? Maybe if you mixed and matched enough pieces? Or would you need so weird combination like a 9-speed casette with 2 cogs removed? All I can say is hmmm...
I've got one machine in the works here with a pair of D/A 8-speed barcons and an SR RD on it - might be time for a bit of experimenting when I get around to it. Didn't care for the idea of running a Shimano RD on it either...
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At one point I thought about checking it out from the local library and just paying the lost book fee to keep it, but I figured the karma would catch up with me. Instead, I bought one from Amazon for under $6 shipped & can enjoy it guilt-free.
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+1 - no C&V'er should be without this book if they fool around with mid '80s components.
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