CL "PX 10e" - Is it?
08-13-08, 09:09 AM
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CL "PX 10e" - Is it?
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/785161756.html
This bike has been on Craiglist for a few months now. Seller states that the bike is a PX 10 and has been professional repainted to protect its identity. The brakes, routing of cables on the top tube, saddle, and chain ring are all different.
https://home.wanadoo.nl/peugeotshow/ has a PX 10 E only in 1983.
This bike has been on Craiglist for a few months now. Seller states that the bike is a PX 10 and has been professional repainted to protect its identity. The brakes, routing of cables on the top tube, saddle, and chain ring are all different.
https://home.wanadoo.nl/peugeotshow/ has a PX 10 E only in 1983.
08-13-08, 09:14 AM
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I don't think so. The cranks, brake levers, and wheels are wrong .....at least. The 'chicken wings' themselves point to an entry-level bike.
Can't tell you what it is, but it isn't a PX-10...and it's not worth what he's asking, in my estimation.
Can't tell you what it is, but it isn't a PX-10...and it's not worth what he's asking, in my estimation.
08-13-08, 09:18 AM
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Not even close. They only thing it has right is the chromed stays. I don't know what model it is but there is not a bit of PX-10 about it. It has cable and pump braze-ons, it has steel cranks, it has safety brake levers, it has the wrong lugs. I don't even think it's a Peugeot. The pump braze-ons are all wrong for a Peugeot. The stays are also not chromed high enough up. It's probably French since it has Simplex drops, but I don't think it's Peugeot and I'm certain it's not a PX-10.
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08-13-08, 09:24 AM
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Didn't the PX 10 have top tub rings, similar to those that route the brake cable, to mount a pump? The rings for the brake cable are missing in the photo, but there are braze-ons for the pump. Also, I did notice the wheels are not right, freewheel can't be right and the guard behind the freewheel should not be there.
08-13-08, 09:55 AM
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I think it's a mistake to judge the authenticity of a 30-odd year old bike by the parts that have been bolted onto the frame. My PX10, for instance, doesn't have a single original component. That being said, I don't know what that thing is. If it's a PX10, terrible things have been done to it.
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08-13-08, 10:04 AM
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I think it's a mistake to judge the authenticity of a 30-odd year old bike by the parts that have been bolted onto the frame. My PX10, for instance, doesn't have a single original component. That being said, I don't know what that thing is. If it's a PX10, terrible things have been done to it.
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I think it's a mistake to judge the authenticity of a 30-odd year old bike by the parts that have been bolted onto the frame. My PX10, for instance, doesn't have a single original component. That being said, I don't know what that thing is. If it's a PX10, terrible things have been done to it.
A bike can be looked at from 3 perspectives:
1. Is the bike correct? In this particular instance, no.
2. Is the frame correct? No. PX-10's didnt have toptube cable guides or built in pump pegs.
3. Are the components correct. No.
So, what is it? Is it a Peugeot? Possibly. It may be a PX-8 which was available with chromed stays.
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08-13-08, 10:44 AM
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The listing has a phone number that turned up some contact information for a professional audio video dealer. I am going to email the person for more pictures / information.
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Jim, looking at the front pump peg, it appears that it does wrap around the top tube as there is a slight rise in the tube directly above it.
08-13-08, 11:40 AM
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Maybe the previous owner thought that the turkey wings, dork disk, cottered crank and UO-8 cable guides were improvements. There's no accounting for taste.
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Thats NOT a PX-10
https://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN
https://www.rollsritebicycles.com/1986PX10.jpg
https://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN
https://www.rollsritebicycles.com/1986PX10.jpg
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What is it?
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If it is a Peugeot it is not the PX10 but could be the more common UO8 model. My first racing type bike was a Peugeot UO8 and it had the same type of bolt on Simplex rear derailleur, the three arm cottered crank and the Mafac brake calipers pictured on the CL. Now the brake levers are new to the bike at some point in its life but safety levers were the think in the 70's on USA sold entry level bikes.
Due to the lack of the proper derailleur mounting built into the drop-out on the bike on CL I would say the bike is a lower level Peugeot such as a UO8 or other bike.
Due to the lack of the proper derailleur mounting built into the drop-out on the bike on CL I would say the bike is a lower level Peugeot such as a UO8 or other bike.
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If it is a Peugeot it is not the PX10 but could be the more common UO8 model. My first racing type bike was a Peugeot UO8 and it had the same type of bolt on Simplex rear derailleur, the three arm cottered crank and the Mafac brake calipers pictured on the CL. Now the brake levers are new to the bike at some point in its life but safety levers were the think in the 70's on USA sold entry level bikes.
Due to the lack of the proper derailleur mounting built into the drop-out on the bike on CL I would say the bike is a lower level Peugeot such as a UO8 or other bike.
Due to the lack of the proper derailleur mounting built into the drop-out on the bike on CL I would say the bike is a lower level Peugeot such as a UO8 or other bike.
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I posted here to see if anyone would help with identifying whether or not this is a PX 10 based on the frame & fork. The components are clearly not anything that would be found on a PX 10, the only exception being the brake calipers and possibly the derailleurs.
The email I sent to the seller was bounced back to me. I guess this monstrosity will remain a mystery for now.
