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    ID Campy Crank

    It looks to me like the FD is Super Record, but I am not as sure about the crank. Thanks for any help in identifying! And what would be the timeframe of these components? Thanks!


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    Cranks are Record w/ Nouvo Record chainrings, and yes they are missing the dust caps.
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    FD is Nuovo Record. I believe that the Cinelli BB is a "Spoiler" model. It came out in the 80's when AERO ruled the bike biz.

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    As a followup to this, I am somewhat confused on the distinctions to be made. From VeloBase, the photos below are supposedly NuovoRecord on top and Record below. What is the difference that I am missing and what is the difference in the rings? The only thing I can see is maybe a difference in the ring bolts and it looks like the small ring is different perhaps. The Record small ring is solid all the way around while the Nuovo small ring has open slots inside the teeth. The owner of the bike I am looking at thinks his crankset (pictured above) is Super Record.


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    "Record" generally refers to the first generation alloy crank Campy made that had a 151 bcd chainwheel set on them. They then moved to a 144bcd size in the 60's, what we generally refer to as "nuovo" (Italian for "new") record, although I believe campy still referred to it as "record" in the catalogues. In the 70's campy came out with a new chainring configuration that was somewhat lighter and differed in construction details. These were the "Super Record" chainrings. However, there was really no change in the actual crank arms/spider, so the only difference between the 2 at the time was which chainring was on there, and they could be mixed! Lots of campy parts seem to have "acquired" the "Nuovo" and "Super" designations even tho in the campy catalogues they were just "record". So, thats probably confusing enough for now!

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    the crankarms are "record" in both groups. In the SR group you got rings w/o webbing. In the NR group you get webbed rings. Look for a single digit number on the back of your crank to ID the year.
    72 special CNC ___________ 72 Frejus (ala Legnano) __73 Holdsworth Record
    78 Raleigh Professional_____ 80 Ranson_____________ 80 unknown French (SS)
    82 Peugeot PXN10_________83 Trek 620 (nee 600)____ 85 Gianni Motta
    85 Trek 560______________88 Guerciotti GLX
    90 Miele Gara_____________02 Casati Dardo (g/blue)__02 Casati Dardo (y/blk)
    03 Casati Dardo___________08 BF IRO (fixed)________10 Vassago Fisticuff (IGH)

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    super record crankset (ie- nuovo record crankarms with super record chainrings)




    super record chainring


    nuovo record chainring- outer


    nuovo record chainring-inner


    pics courtesy of velobase

    ps- the front derailleur is also nuovo record- super record is identical but with black anodised arms-both models available in clamp style and braze-on versions

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    Thanks for all the info. I definiely get the difference in the front derailleurs. I did notice the black being on the Super Record. But judging from the crank on this bike and your explanations, it appears that the large ring on this bike is Nuovo Record and the small ring is Super Record as it does not have the webbing. Is that the way you see it?

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    Thats what it looks like, presuming the inner ring is actually campy, and not one of the many copies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evwxxx View Post
    Thats what it looks like, presuming the inner ring is actually campy, and not one of the many copies.
    The inside ring is definitely Campy. You can see the Campagnolo lettering from the non drive side in the second picture in the original post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpsqlrwn View Post
    The inside ring is definitely Campy. You can see the Campagnola lettering from the non drive side in the second picture in the original post.
    Ahh, must be a made by the company that makes Rolax watches

    Have you looked on the back of the crankarms to date it?
    72 special CNC ___________ 72 Frejus (ala Legnano) __73 Holdsworth Record
    78 Raleigh Professional_____ 80 Ranson_____________ 80 unknown French (SS)
    82 Peugeot PXN10_________83 Trek 620 (nee 600)____ 85 Gianni Motta
    85 Trek 560______________88 Guerciotti GLX
    90 Miele Gara_____________02 Casati Dardo (g/blue)__02 Casati Dardo (y/blk)
    03 Casati Dardo___________08 BF IRO (fixed)________10 Vassago Fisticuff (IGH)

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