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Old 09-21-08, 03:55 PM   #1
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Klein Attitude

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First post here. I inherited a Klein Attitude from my father, and i know very little about bikes. It looks nearly brand new, has to be from the early 90s (definitley pre-Trek).

When i got this tuned up, I was told it was something special and work a chunk of change. I hesitate to ride it if it's worth what the bike shop told me...

Here's a few pictures and what i know about it

- Custom painted shock absorbing front fork
- Custom front fork tube bearing
- Original rigid fork included in excellent condition
- Shimano Deore XT components and seat
- Machined aluminum bar ends, custom grips

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9030/dsc00068na6.jpg
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/1856/dsc00078qu7.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/63/dsc00069xb5.jpg

what do you guys think? worth some $$ or should i just ride it?
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Old 09-21-08, 03:58 PM   #2
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It looks tiny
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Old 09-21-08, 04:34 PM   #3
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Welcome to the forum! Nice bike - I just saw the same bike on my local CL (Boston)! what a coincidence. I dont know if the bike's worth a lot, but in addition to getting opinions here you could also look at recent eBay sales and ask another bike shop - if you havent already done that. I think most folks on this forum are into road bikes so you may not get a lot of opinions...YMMV!

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Hey All
First post here. I inherited a Klein Attitude from my father, and i know very little about bikes. It looks nearly brand new, has to be from the early 90s (definitley pre-Trek).

When i got this tuned up, I was told it was something special and work a chunk of change. I hesitate to ride it if it's worth what the bike shop told me...

Here's a few pictures and what i know about it

- Custom painted shock absorbing front fork
- Custom front fork tube bearing
- Original rigid fork included in excellent condition
- Shimano Deore XT components and seat
- Machined aluminum bar ends, custom grips

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9030/dsc00068na6.jpg
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/1856/dsc00078qu7.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/63/dsc00069xb5.jpg

what do you guys think? worth some $$ or should i just ride it?
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Old 09-21-08, 04:36 PM   #4
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That is a circa 1990 Attitude with the Mission Control, one piece, superlight, handlebar and stem. It's also got the proprietary 1-9/16 steerer and headset that uses pressed-in bearings. These frames sold for $1150. A complete Deore XT equipped model was also available, but I don't think that happened in this particular case. The 1990 Deore XT group was STI equipped and this one still has thumbshifters. The complete bicycle would have been worth about $1750 and weighed about 24 lbs, which was very light for the era.

So yes, it was expensive and cutting edge for the time and is in near mint condition. But is it collectible? I don't think vintage ATBs have the collectibility status of vintage road bicycles but that may be changing. Hopefully some forum members who are more knowledgable in that particualr aspect will voice their opinion.
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Old 09-21-08, 04:37 PM   #5
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see those horizontal rear facing drop-outs? If you sell it focus on those and it may bring you a larger market of people looking to build SS MTBs... That said I bet first flight bikes would be interested in it because it's in such good shape and so unique... there is a shop owner around these parts who has an NOS frame set.. not for sale of course
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Klein Attitude in Team USA paint with matching suspension forks and Mission Control. XTII components. If the pics don't lie, it looks in very proper condition. Worth anything? Well, what is anything?
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Thanks for all the responses. Looks like I came to the right place to get some info!
@deburn -- that's not a coincidence

As I thought, something like this is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it -- i've already gotten a wide range of offers. Guess I'll take it to some local bike shops and see what I can see. Ideally I can sell this guy, get something that I can use as a commuter / beater and walk away with enough $$ for a night out with the missus.
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If I take my WTB Phoenix to the lbs and would ask them what they think it is worth I am sure they have no clue.

I am not Klein connaisseur (stupid overrated aluminium bikes), but with this one if you have no idea you're ripped off within a blink of the eye. Retrobike.co.uk has a ''what is it worth?'' thread.
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Another coincidence: That's the very model of Klein that passed me the other day while I was on my road-bike. That surprised me to see a mountain-bike traveling that fast - I was only going around 20mph - though the rider was going all-out. I told him he had a nice machine. He ignored me smugly and Klein'd away.
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Guess I'll take it to some local bike shops and see what I can see.
Don't expect dealers of new bikes to be highly educated in C&V bike pricing. Typical response is that it is either "worthless" or "priceless."

You'll get farther with less legwork by checking completed auctions on eBay.

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this looks to be exactly like my 1992 attitude (different color and size) with the rigid fork (rounded versus welded tubing of earlier years). i sold mine two years ago for $850. mind you it was in original mint condition albeit high (35,000 miles) of on road riding never saw off road or rain. mine also was the last year of the 22" frame. i listed it on mountain bike review and had people contacting me from all over the world because of the size. when all was said and done like i said i got $850 for it. i was the original owner so i had the manuals and original bill of sale. i paid $1500 for the bike at the very end of 1992 off a list price of $1800. hope this helps. not sure of demand for that size but with both the rigid and suspension fork i would hold out for AT LEAST $1000 if not more.

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Typical response is that it is either "worthless" or "priceless." -Kurt
Its also worth pointing out that this response is basically true. In a sense they are utterly worthless, but some of us fools find them priceless.

The real question is not the question of value, the real question is how to find the right market.

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p.s., I have a Klein Pinnacle Elite that is as fine a bike of that type as one will find. Beautiful, light, simple, and an aggressively quick ride.
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Old 09-22-08, 11:42 AM   #13
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The real question is not the question of value, the real question is how to find the right market.
Jim, I totally agree. Can you or others suggest which markets are the "right" ones? I certainly don't mind spending a few bucks to sell this thing.
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Well, if it was a bit larger, I might be your target audience. But alas...

If you joined this site, you could try to hawk it here. Hard to find a higher density of old bike fools than on BF. Alternatively, you could try to trade it here.

But, for all its evils, Ebay is the purest market there is. Put it up there? Depending on where you live, CL is probably a waste of time.

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Thanks for all the responses. Looks like I came to the right place to get some info!
@deburn -- that's not a coincidence

As I thought, something like this is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it -- i've already gotten a wide range of offers. Guess I'll take it to some local bike shops and see what I can see. Ideally I can sell this guy, get something that I can use as a commuter / beater and walk away with enough $$ for a night out with the missus.
Are you from the Boston area? All the best with the bike! Let us know how it turns out
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I would very much like to turn one into a single-speed for that brute-racing class I'm thinkin' about next year...if you post it up on eBay, let us know!
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Old 09-27-08, 06:23 PM   #17
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db, yeah, i'm in needham. It's pretty amazing the number of emails i've gotten about it. some decent offers, but i'm going to hang onto it for awhile and see what happens. After all, it's not as if it will be worth less in 2 months than it is now.
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db, yeah, i'm in needham. It's pretty amazing the number of emails i've gotten about it. some decent offers, but i'm going to hang onto it for awhile and see what happens. After all, it's not as if it will be worth less in 2 months than it is now.
It will be worth less in 2 months! College kids have their bikes for school, and spring frenzy is a long way aways. Plus, with this economy we might see the prices of high end used bikes drop quite far, not only because people can't pay as much, but also because we may see more available because people are thinning the herd for cash. Plus, the fixie craze has gone through the first wave, and everyone is pretty much aware of how much it costs to take a used bike and make it fit/work for you, unless you're a wrench with a stash of parts.

We've had quite a few Kleins on ebay here recently. There's a Klein Attitude Comp for sale right now for $975. I'm surprised there's been so many this summer. When I got my stage comp last year, it was the first Klein I'd seen all summer.

I'm sold on Craig's list being better than ebay. Shipping is scary and expensive.
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Hi, if youre still out there give me a call if its still for sale! ola@transitbredband.se

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The two of you do realize that this thread is almost two years old right?
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Hey, this gives me an idea...I could artificially drive up the value of a bike I own by creating new accounts and showing interest/making offers (with all the acumen of Austin Powers playing poker). That way, when I find someone local who is interested, I can steer them to bike forums and say, "see, I could sell this for $4K but I'll give it to you for half that"
Just kidding?
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