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    Harry Quinn track bike.... anyone looking?

    This is available from the gentleman I bought my Paramount from. I told him I'd look aorund to see if there's any interest.







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    There is always interest if you list a price. Roger

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    Jim, What size is it - and how much is the gentleman asking for it?
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    I'll ask him about the size.....

    We didnt discuss price...he only said less than what I paid for my Paramount.

    A rough guesstimate.....$4-600.
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    Fair enough,

    It's a great looking bike but from the photo it might be a bit too big for me (5' 7" tall, 31.5" inside leg, groin to ground)

    I normally ride a 55-56cm, 21.5 to 22.5" frame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldpeddaller View Post
    Fair enough,

    It's a great looking bike but from the photo it might be a bit too big for me (5' 7" tall, 31.5" inside leg, groin to ground)

    I normally ride a 55-56cm, 21.5 to 22.5" frame
    I just E-mailed him requesting the standover height, TT length and seattube length, he usualy responds back within the day.

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    May just be the photos, but the frame seems to have a much slacker seat tube angle than head tube. Is that an idiosyncrasy, or a track thing?

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    that is a track thing. Steep headtube angles = quick steering, a must on the track.

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    sweet, proper track hubs? campy? at $600 it seems pretty good it they are proper track hubs with a lockring and those are actual pista cranks, could easily part it out on ebay for a lot more.
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    If it is somewhere between a 57-59, i would like it, but would not part it out. I'll keep it and clean it up. I have some spare tubulars that need to be glued to something.

    Also, in the first pic, the fork seems to be bent back a bit. Is it a optical illusion, or does anyone else see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclotoine View Post
    sweet, proper track hubs? campy? at $600 it seems pretty good it they are proper track hubs with a lockring and those are actual pista cranks, could easily part it out on ebay for a lot more.
    Yes, and they are the early 151 bcd cranks too.
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    that frame does look like it might be bent, but I'm always suspicious of that. 1st pic in particular, the top tube has a nasty look to it.

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    I would love to have that but I wouldn't pay more than $200 for it (personally).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclotoine View Post
    sweet, proper track hubs? campy? at $600 it seems pretty good it they are proper track hubs with a lockring and those are actual pista cranks, could easily part it out on ebay for a lot more.
    The front hub is Campy while the rear hub is something else, I cant remember off the top of my head...'Ofmega'? 'Gippeme'? and yes, those are real deal 'Pista' cranks with Campy pedals.

    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
    that frame does look like it might be bent, but I'm always suspicious of that. 1st pic in particular, the top tube has a nasty look to it.
    I took the pictures with my cell phone so that may something to do with it. The owner sent me the dimensions.



    Stand over height is about 32”
    Seat tube length is 22 ˝” or 57 cm
    Top tube length is 22”
    Wheel base is 37”

    If your seriously interested PM me and I'll forward the owners E-mail adress to you. He and his wife are extremely nice and easy to talk to and deal with. The both have an extensive cycling background going back decades.

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    37" wheelbase on a vintage track bike? leads me to think the fork or frame is probably bent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
    37" wheelbase on a vintage track bike? leads me to think the fork or frame is probably bent.
    When I was there it appeared to very straight and I have a very good eye for spotting bent bikes.

    As a reference my 'vintage' Paramount track bike has a 38" wheelbase with the wheel located mid dropout. From the pictures it appears the Quinn has a much tighter rear triangle than my Paramount.
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    this was probably a custom built frame that was built for a tall person with a long torso. The solution being a slack seat angle.

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    Tempting. This guy in FL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    Tempting. This guy in FL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
    When I was there it appeared to very straight and I have a very good eye for spotting bent bikes.

    As a reference my 'vintage' Paramount track bike has a 38" wheelbase with the wheel located mid dropout. From the pictures it appears the Quinn has a much tighter rear triangle than my Paramount.
    A note on this geometry, I have seen a number of British track bikes with this basic configuration, slack seat tube and steep head tube. I had a Bob Jackson that was that way, bought when even locating a track frame was a challenge, and I could not wait for a Paramount or a Raleigh Pro. While this is not a "grass track" frame, I think its origins are there, more weight on the rear tire, and allowing the front to float over the turf. The frame design really suggests you set the seat far back, so a long femur, big feet and/or, you will be placing the saddle way forward to get a more typical track saddle position. If you do that and move the saddle forward, you will really decrease the effective top tube length, resulting in a LONG stem, I ended up with a 135mm on a bike with a 22.5" top tube, really surprising, which put too much weight up forward. This was needed as my feet are small, and I had a gear limit at the time, so spinning was the way, power was not the commodity. With the 37" wheel base as stated, which I think it really is, you will have gobs of toe clip overlap. If it is like many Quinn's it will have a really high bottom bracket too, indicated by the big head tube.

    In Summation, think about what you want and need, I was SO HAPPY the day I got my replacement to the Jackson, a handsome bike, just not right for me.

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