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Old 10-07-08, 02:05 AM   #1
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Colnago or not a Colnago?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Colnago-53cm-Roa...d=p3286.c0.m14

SunTour dropouts, "Ibanez" tubing, japanese components, mostly 600 with cinelli bar and stem (components look original to me). What? It does have a clover cutout in the lower headlug and an oddly shaped clover cutout in the BB, and two top tube cable guides. Lugs do look nicely finished. Thoughts?
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very weird. almost a Super, with the correct lugs, brake bridge, chain stay brace, cable guides, bottom bracket for a late 7os model. but then it has Suntour dropouts???

perhaps the decal for the tubing is incorrect, but paint looks pretty old and original. but where are traces of the other decals? in my experience, the tubing decal dies long before the colnago decals do.

perhaps the lugset was exported and the bike made overseas by some other manufacturer, but then why the clover cut out in the BB? also, the fork is not a colnago at all: sloping crown is too steep, on logo in the crown top, and has fender eyelets.

that toptube ding looks like a hard crash where the front wheel rolled all the way to the right. the Shimaon 600 set is in good condition, apart from the rusty freewheel, and looks like it alone may be worth the cost of the bike.
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With so many fine bikes in the marketplace I will never understand why anyone would consider paying such money for a badly damaged frame with now rather ordinary components. And all that RUST on every piece, somewhere!!

There are too many questions about the pedigree. I'll be surprised if this bike sells at all.

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Old 10-07-08, 09:34 AM   #4
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"Ibanez" tubing? Since when did the guitar maker branch out into bikes? Clearly it's no Colnago, looks like a decent Japanese frame (maybe Ishiwata tubing) and with a Tange chrome replacement fork. If the rust hasn't done serious damage it could clean up to be a nice rider...but not worth that price.
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I was staring at this one for awhile last night. Whatever it is it's about as sloppy as they come. Look at the front view close-up of the top head-lug, the front of the lug appears to be completely un-even.

The fork is obviously not original to the bike.

I would guess it to be some kind of Japanese copy or a very entry level Colnago?

Whatever it is, as mentioned before it has been crashed hard and would no way be worth more than the sum of its parts.
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With so many fine bikes in the marketplace I will never understand why anyone would consider paying such money for a badly damaged frame with now rather ordinary components. And all that RUST on every piece, somewhere!!

There are too many questions about the pedigree. I'll be surprised if this bike sells at all.

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Yep, not worth the risk.
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Yeah, it's still got me stumped. I didn't think for a second about about buying it, too weird. We'll see how it pans out.
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