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Old 10-07-08, 05:33 PM   #1
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Need help, Wilier Triestina?

Hi everyone, I´m Matias from Argentina, and I have this beautiful bike and it lacks the front badge. I think that is a Willier triestina, maybe from the 50'.
It has Campagnolo Cambio Corsa shift gear, and hubs.
The crankset has the "Willier" inscription. The rear brake is "Universal".
The rims are RIGIDA (France)

I´m working on the seat, so, the pics goes without it.

Here are the pics, any information is welcome.





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Old 10-07-08, 06:08 PM   #2
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That's a very nice and rare bike. It should be very carefully rebuilt to stock specifications. Do not paint it!!

See what folks here say, but I would join the Classic Rendezvouz email list and post it there as well.

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/main.htm

Very nice bike!
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Old 10-07-08, 06:56 PM   #3
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This bike looks to be late 40's I have the same bike with chrome forks and first year gran sport derailuers. Unfortunatley mine was repainted but I still have all the original engraved parts. The Wilier company closed it's doors in 53 & didn't reopen until the mid sixties. That is a lovely & rare bike.

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Old 10-07-08, 08:22 PM   #4
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Thanks for the answers. Really I don´t know the brand of the bike, but has several parts similar to the wilier.

I´m watching the classic Rendezvous site, thanks for the link.
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turn it into a fixie.
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color looks "correct" for a Willier, at least I've seen one before with similar paint...very nice!
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Very nice!
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Any way you could post a close-up of the rear wheel?


Especially that rear dérailleur... and is that some sort of hyper-extended quick-release or what?

There's a few things going on back there that have piqued my curiosity.
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Any way you could post a close-up of the rear wheel?


Especially that rear dérailleur... and is that some sort of hyper-extended quick-release or what?

There's a few things going on back there that have piqued my curiosity.
There´s an image in 1600x1200 pixels, see that.

The rear derailleur is a Campagnolo Cambio Corsa.
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Hi Again Matias. the bike is definately a Wilier Triestina. The frame & fork are the same as mine except for the cambio corso. I have some pics I have been collecting I could send to you if you like. Most are taken from the wooljersey website. If you search the site www.wooljersey.com/ you will find a pic of a bike identical to yours.
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There´s an image in 1600x1200 pixels, see that.

The rear derailleur is a Campagnolo Cambio Corsa.
Ok, so the deraileur moves the chain, I get that part, does the other lever move the wheel?

I know these are probably stupid questions to you but I've never seen a setup like that before and find it quite interesting.
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Ok, so the deraileur moves the chain, I get that part, does the other lever move the wheel?

I know these are probably stupid questions to you but I've never seen a setup like that before and find it quite interesting.
You first twist the top lever. That releases the rear wheel so it can slide back and forth in the dropout. The rear dropouts have notches that mesh with those of the rear axle, so the wheel stays straight as you're doing this. As the wheel slides forward, the chain gets some slack. You then twist the lower lever as you're back pedaling to guide the chain onto the desired cog. Then twist the top lever to its original position to lock the rear wheel in place...and off you go.
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You first twist the top lever. That releases the rear wheel so it can slide back and forth in the dropout. The rear dropouts have notches that mesh with those of the rear axle, so the wheel stays straight as you're doing this. As the wheel slides forward, the chain gets some slack. You then twist the lower lever as you're back pedaling to guide the chain onto the desired cog. Then twist the top lever to its original position to lock the rear wheel in place...and off you go.
And folks talk about things being simpler in the so-called "good ol' days".
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Thank you all for your answers!!

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Hi Again Matias. the bike is definately a Wilier Triestina. The frame & fork are the same as mine except for the cambio corso. I have some pics I have been collecting I could send to you if you like. Most are taken from the wooljersey website. If you search the site www.wooljersey.com/ you will find a pic of a bike identical to yours.
yes! is the same, very very thanks, confirmed, mi bicycle is a Wilier Triestina.
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I'm sorry but I do not subscribe to the belief that this is a Wilier. The seat and chain stay ends near the dropouts simply do not correspond to what was being produced by Wilier in Italy. It could very likely be that Wilier was building frames contemporaneously on a local basis in Argentina, as this was not unheard of at the time. Most Italian Wiliers of the day came with Wilier branded hubs, cranks, pedals, stem, BB axle... The hubs more often than not remained with the bike, so it is very odd for the hubs not to carry the Wilier inscription if it truly is a Wilier. Perhaps you could check the BB axle to see whether it too is marked Wilier. You might also want to check the date codes on the hub cones, to verify the year of production. You could then count the number of teeth on the rear dropouts, whether 15, 17 or 19... This might give a further reinforcement as to where and when the bike was produced.
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actually, the fast back seatstay is a detail of every Wilier from the early period before the factory closing in 53. My Bike, a 52' has the inscribed stem and crankset but the rings are stronglight. The pedals are Italian but I cant make out the maker's mark.Ny bike also has first gen. Gran Sport hubs marked 52'.
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actually, the fast back seatstay is a detail of every Wilier from the early period before the factory closing in 53. My Bike, a 52' has the inscribed stem and crankset but the rings are stronglight. The pedals are Italian but I cant make out the maker's mark.Ny bike also has first gen. Gran Sport hubs marked 52'.
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Please reread what I wrote, I was not speaking of the upper end of the seatstays, but rather about the bottom end of the seatstays, where they are brazed to the dropouts. The tubes have a rounded/crimped appearance that was not commonly found on Italian Wilier bikes that I have seen. This would indicate another supplier of tubing was being used, hence my suggestion that it is either a local Argentine product or not a Wilier.
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