Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-08-08, 02:56 AM   #1
minority
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Bikes:
Posts: 214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Colnago? I don't think so - but....

Hi everyone.

Here is my latest bulk rubbish find.

Although it says Colnago on the decals I don't think it is (much as I would love it to be one).

It came with Galli Brakes, levers and non drive side crank, campagnolo pedals, campagnolo FD and mavic tubular rim with campag hub (rear), 3ttt bar and stem all of which I think may be original.

The other bits include Shimano 600 RD and mavic ma40 clincher rim with Shimano 600 hub.

The seatpost is a Sugino Mighty (Super Record 2 bolt copy) which i have measured ay 27mm so I think the seat tube is either 27 or 27.2mm.

The dropouts (rear at least) are Columbus.

From the lack of cable guides and clamp on changer I would guess early 70s

Does anyone know what it is?













minority is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 03:37 AM   #2
ozneddy
Senior Member
 
ozneddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Bikes: Casati, ,Peugot,Mitchell,Raliegh,Nishiki
Posts: 1,485
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Def 70,s and NOT "Colnago" looks similar to a Miyata I have,(not saying it IS one tho) have you found the serial No ? good score tho m8 !
ozneddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 03:39 AM   #3
ozneddy
Senior Member
 
ozneddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Bikes: Casati, ,Peugot,Mitchell,Raliegh,Nishiki
Posts: 1,485
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Austro-Daimler keeps popping into my head ! (Dunno why,lol)
ozneddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 05:24 AM   #4
minority
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Bikes:
Posts: 214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozneddy View Post
Austro-Daimler keeps popping into my head ! (Dunno why,lol)
Think it must be the little"v" shape (for want of a better description) in the lugs on the front of the steering tube
minority is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 07:18 AM   #5
hhabca
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Bikes:
Posts: 378
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
English or Italian BB? Nice looking frame!
hhabca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 09:33 AM   #6
unworthy1
Stop reading my posts!
 
unworthy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 9,435
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 95 Post(s)
worst Colnago fake ever! Even the Columbus decal looks suspect, but it has some interesting details: the lugwork is good in some places, sketchy in others. I'd be tempted to guess "Japanese" too, but then the braze-on cable stop on the chainstay and those Simplex shifters smell more "European"...great find for the price! Given that is has "some" braze-ons, but not others could mean it's from a transitional period (late 70s for example) or some could have rusted/broken off. When you take it apart, look for signs of it being a respray.

Last edited by unworthy1; 10-08-08 at 09:38 AM.
unworthy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 10:58 AM   #7
urodacus
Large Member
 
urodacus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Okinawa
Bikes: 05 Giant TCR 0; 83 Colnago Saronni; 81 San Rensho Katana Super Export track bike, #A116-56; 97 GT Zaskar
Posts: 1,183
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
nice fake, but the decals are in the wrong places, the lugs have no cutouts (check under the BB too), and is there a serial number stamped into the right dropout where the skewer clamps on? the lugs at the headtube look funny, with a very non-standard little v cut rather than a pair of small points (in that vintage of super). the brake bridge does not have the signature square block in the center, and the seat stay attachment points at the seat tube are wrong for the period (usually concve ccaps at that time too).

what does the frame weigh? might be an OK bike under all that.
urodacus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 04:14 PM   #8
Oldpeddaller
Senior Member
 
Oldpeddaller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Maidstone, Kent, England
Bikes: 1970 Holdsworth Mistral, Vitus 979, Colnago Primavera, Corratec Hydracarbon, Massi MegaTeam, 1935 Claud Butler Super Velo, Carrera Virtuoso, Viner, 1953 Claud Butler Silver Jubilee, 1954 Holdsworth Typhoon, 1966 Claud Butler Olympic Road, 1982 Claud
Posts: 2,619
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by unworthy1 View Post
worst Colnago fake ever! Even the Columbus decal looks suspect, but it has some interesting details: the lugwork is good in some places, sketchy in others. I'd be tempted to guess "Japanese" too, but then the braze-on cable stop on the chainstay and those Simplex shifters smell more "European"...great find for the price! Given that is has "some" braze-ons, but not others could mean it's from a transitional period (late 70s for example) or some could have rusted/broken off. When you take it apart, look for signs of it being a respray.
No, This is the worst fake Colnago ever! (Unless anyone has something that can beat it!)
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 10-04-06_1343.jpg (46.4 KB, 45 views)
Oldpeddaller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 07:32 PM   #9
velomateo
Senior Member
 
velomateo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: California
Bikes: Colnago C40 World Champion-Mapei, Team Saturn GT, Serotta Speciale, Raliegh Beater
Posts: 525
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Not a Colnago...but not junk either. Good find.
velomateo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 08:18 PM   #10
minority
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Bikes:
Posts: 214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by urodacus View Post
nice fake, but the decals are in the wrong places, the lugs have no cutouts (check under the BB too), and is there a serial number stamped into the right dropout where the skewer clamps on? the lugs at the headtube look funny, with a very non-standard little v cut rather than a pair of small points (in that vintage of super). the brake bridge does not have the signature square block in the center, and the seat stay attachment points at the seat tube are wrong for the period (usually concve ccaps at that time too).

what does the frame weigh? might be an OK bike under all that.
Don't know how much the frame weighs, but all up the bike is 10kg
minority is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 09:00 PM   #11
urodacus
Large Member
 
urodacus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Okinawa
Bikes: 05 Giant TCR 0; 83 Colnago Saronni; 81 San Rensho Katana Super Export track bike, #A116-56; 97 GT Zaskar
Posts: 1,183
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
good luck removing the seat post!
urodacus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:41 AM.