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Old 10-16-08, 07:03 AM   #1
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(Falcon) Can somebody give me an aproximate year or model?

I was looking for an older bike to refurb and somebody sent me a picture of this bike they had kicking around - anybody got an idea on an approximate model or year or somewhere for me to get a sense of what it is with out having to drive 50 miles to check it out.

Thanks so much if you can help out.

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Old 10-16-08, 07:25 AM   #2
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It appears to have a steel, cottered crankset, Weinmann brakes, Simplex derailleurs and a steel (?), clincher wheelset. The best feature is what appears to be Brooks Pro saddle. The rear derailleur appears to use a claw adapter, a feature generally found on hi-tensile frames with stamped, dropouts.

All of the above points towards an early 1970s, entry level model, possibly a Model 68.
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Would you think this is a worth bike for a 1st time refurb fix-er-up? The guy wanted $30.
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Does not even appear to have the cool full wrap-around seat stay attachment many falcons had. The decal on the upper part of the seat tube does appear to have the right "colors" for a Reynolds decal, however....
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Would you think this is a worth bike for a 1st time refurb fix-er-up? The guy wanted $30.
I would pay $30 for it. And if, indeed, the 3 main tubes are Reynolds 531, that would be a deal and a good frame for a "first time" refurber to work on.
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Could be Reynolds 531 straight gauge. Perhaps it is just the picture, but the seat tube looks misshapen.
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The seat tube does look bent - maybe its a wide angle lens
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I agree with T-Mar, entry level model, probably weighs 30 lbs. I'm not familiar with the model 68, I was going to guess Model 70 Black Diamond.

$30 is pretty cheap for a working bike. If it's your size, and you would have a use for this bike, it might be worth the trip. Refurbishing it could quickly turn it in to a $200 bike by the time you've replaced tires, cables, and possibly that rear derailleur (does it even have jockey pulleys?).

The bike does have some potential. Great brake clearance means you can mount 27 1-1/4" (32mm) tires AND fenders. Dropout eyelets allow you to mount fenders and racks easily. Those rims look like they are aluminum. The saddle looks like it's in great shape. If that truly is a Reynolds sticker indicating straight gauge tubing I find that it's worth at least a psychological pound off the bike.

It would make a great commuting/winter/errand bike. I keep a spare Falcon at work to take to lunch when I don't ride my regular bike in.
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My mid 80's Falcon, with a better mix of components, is only Reynolds 501 and only on main tubes.

Weinmann levers and Weinmann Top 560 brakes, Sachs Huret deraileurs, Mavic rims.



Very little Falcon info out there, but I would say entry level Falcon of mid 70's vintage.

Worth $30, yeah, I would think so.

Here is a link to some info and pics of older Falcons.

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...les/Falcon.htm
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Does not even appear to have the cool full wrap-around seat stay attachment many falcons had. The decal on the upper part of the seat tube does appear to have the right "colors" for a Reynolds decal, however....
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Could be Reynolds 531 straight gauge. Perhaps it is just the picture, but the seat tube looks misshapen.
Yes, it does look like like it could be a Reynolds 531, but as suggested, it would most likely be plain gauge. It would also probably be only for the 3 main tubes.

Even if it hi-tensile, $30 it's not a bad price, provided it fits and is in good mechanical condition, however that is doubtful, given that the chain has been removed from the rear derailleur. And yes, that seattube does not look right.
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Looks like a Falcon Black Diamond from the 1970's and not a bad project for a first restoration. Be surprised if the seat-tube is actually bent at that point - can't see how that would happen? If it is bent then there's no point in buying it - if not, for that price and the cost of a pair of old pulleys, chain and polish I'd give it a go.
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I agree with Oldpeddaller. The raised head-badge alone would get 15 here.
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If that's actually a Brooks Pro, it's worth $30 even if you throw the rest of the bike away. But I think the bars look pretty cool, too. I would definitely buy it at that price.

I see what people are saying about the seat tube, but all the stays look OK as far as I can tell - it would be a pretty strange event to cause that noticeable damage without doing anything to the rest of the frame, no?
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