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Old 11-07-08, 04:58 PM   #1
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Nishiki Bravo info

Hello everyone, I'm looking for some information and advice on a bike i picked up.

I brought a Nishiki Bravo mountain bike home the other week. It is a high tensile frame, decent welds. It's red and silver. The rear drops look forged, not stamped, with a deraileur hanger. Mismatched wheels. Shimano SIS deraileurs, rear has a claw despite the build in hanger, gripshifts. SR Suntour triple crank, seven speed megarange freewheel. Zoom suspension fork with a threaded steam.

Does anyone know where it falls into the Nishiki timeline, and possibly how old it might be? Would this be worth modifying for a fun around town bike (slick tires, northroad style bars, suspension post)? Is this a low end, LBS bike, or an x-mart special?

Any info and advice would be much appreciated. Also, let me know if I should have posted this in a different forum, I just tend to spend the most time in C&V.
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Old 11-07-08, 05:18 PM   #2
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I found a bit of info on Nishiki Bravo. It appears they made these from 1995 through 1999.

Does yours look like this one? If so, this one is a 1998 bike.

http://www.bikepedia.com/Quickbike/B...ravo&Type=bike


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Old 11-07-08, 05:21 PM   #3
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Nishiki stopped producing bikes for the U.S. market in 2001, so it's at least that old. I have a later Nishiki as well- a hybrid, not a MTB.

Nishikis were built by Kawamura in Japan originally, and they were medium-to-high-end bicycles. They never registered the brand, though, and it was registered by the American importers who eventually sold out to Derby (who also produced Raleigh and Univega) and they started producing Nishiki-branded bicycles as well. Unless the frame says "Frame by Kawamura" on the chain stays, it is one of these later, Derby-produced models (i.e., late 80s or later), which is my guess. They were pretty much a department store brand, but not a bad one.

It may have a Raleigh USA counterpart; I've seen Raleighs with frame details pretty much the same as my Nishiki.
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Old 11-07-08, 06:13 PM   #4
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Nishiki stopped producing bikes for the U.S. market in 2001, so it's at least that old. I have a later Nishiki as well- a hybrid, not a MTB.

Unless the frame says "Frame by Kawamura" on the chain stays, it is one of these later, Derby-produced models (i.e., late 80s or later), which is my guess. They were pretty much a department store brand, but not a bad one.

It may have a Raleigh USA counterpart; I've seen Raleighs with frame details pretty much the same as my Nishiki.
I would say that they, like Raleigh USA stuff, is better than department store level. My main ride for the past 2000 miles has been a 1998 Raleigh USA M60 mountain bike that has been nothing but a solid dependable enjoyable ride.
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Old 11-07-08, 08:23 PM   #5
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It's my understanding that one of the major mistakes Derby made with the Nishiki line was to market the low end Nishiki bikes to department stores while they were selling the low end and mid level bikes to bike shops. The bike shops resented this action and the low end Nishikis were a little pricey for department stores who lost interest. This action is supposed to have damaged Nishiki's reputation and their sales.
I don't think Nishiki ever sold exclusively to department stores (with the exception of a SORA level road bike that was sold through Dick's in 2003). As an example, in 1999, a Nishiki Cascade sold for $750. Hey, there's not much of a market at Wally World for a $750 bike in todays money without adjusting for inflation. In 1999, Wally World was less interested in bikes than they are today.
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doohickie, what type of nishiki hybrid do you have? I have a saga from the late 80's or the early 90's
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The bike looks similar to the one pictured above. A couple of differences, mainly the cables all run along the bottom of the top tube instead of the downtube. The for could be a replacement, as it is threadless, and the one pictured above is threaded. The geometry appears similar. I'll try to post pictures. Thanks everyone for the replies!
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