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    $650 for 1999 barely ridden Waterford 1600

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:B:WNA:US:1123

    Pictures are rather small, but seems like in super condition. Overpriced? Anyone know the weight of Waterford 1600's?
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    get it.
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    I don't think you should be asking the Classic And Vintage forum about a bike from 1999-

    Oh wow. That was almost ten years ago. I just had an "I feel old" moment.

    Anyway, if you like it, get it. I'd like a 51cm bike.

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    Frame and fork only.
    Laterally stiff yet vertically compliant.

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    The 1600 used Reynolds 753 OS, and was billed as a "multi-sport" model. I believe they were designed and built for 650B wheels, if that makes a difference.

    In 1996, the framesets started at $1100.

    The price is right if it fits and you're OK with 650B wheels.
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    Auction over. No bids.
    Laterally stiff yet vertically compliant.

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    ask him to put it back up with a buy it now option. Use the current eBay 25% off coupon and it is yours cheap(er).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unagidon View Post
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:B:WNA:US:1123

    Pictures are rather small, but seems like in super condition. Overpriced? Anyone know the weight of Waterford 1600's?
    Not a bad price if it's your size. I paid about $500 for an all Chorus equipped 1995 1200 3 years ago. Got another frame only RSE-11 for about $450. They were both in 56 which is very popular and usually a bit more expensive. I guess that's a fair price in todays dollars. Go and see what Waterford gets new for frame without fork. It will blow your mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooper View Post
    The 1600 used Reynolds 753 OS, and was billed as a "multi-sport" model. I believe they were designed and built for 650B wheels, if that makes a difference.

    In 1996, the framesets started at $1100.

    The price is right if it fits and you're OK with 650B wheels.
    You mean 650C? Waterford stopped using 753 almost 10 years ago. Nobody was using 650B wheels then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs1 View Post
    You mean 650C? Waterford stopped using 753 almost 10 years ago. Nobody was using 650B wheels then.
    According to Dave Hellekson at Waterford, they stopped using 753 in 2002 when Reynolds began putting all their promotion into 853 and ceased production of 531 and 753.

    From Waterford 1996 product line-up notes:

    What We Build:

    Model 1200/2200 Road Racing Frameset

    Our premier road racing frameset represents over a century of technological advances and careful refinements. This design balances the need for minimum weight, maximum pedaling efficiency, rider comfort, responsive handling and superb fit. Twenty one standard sizes. From $1,100.

    Model 1100 Road Racing Frameset

    Our entry-level road racing frameset represents and economical path to a world class ride. Same geometry as the 1200 with our special Reynolds 531 OS tubeset, forged chrome-moly dropouts and our exclusive integrated cable guides. Seven standard sizes. From $800.

    Model 1250 Sports Touring Frameset

    Perfect for supported touring such as RAGBRAI and BAMMI, the 1250 combines the athletics of the 1200 with the comfort of a classic road touring bike. The 1250 includes rear rack support for credit card touring. Twenty-one standard sizes. From $1,100.

    Model 2400 Off-Road Racing Framesets

    More and more riders have come to appreciate the Waterford off-road Ride. Great fit, supple handling and durable construction add up to great performance! Fourteen standard sizes. Rigid or suspension forks available. From $1,050.

    Model 1600/2600 Multisport Competition Frameset

    From the pioneers in 650B wheel design comes a bike with the ideal acceleration and rider aerodynamics for multisport competitors. Seventeen standard sizes. From $1,100.

    Model 1700/1800/2800 Competition Track Frameset

    Bred from decades of world championship competition, our competition track framesets thrive on the rigors of track. Each tube and lug has been custom engineered to meet the requirements and withstand the rigors of track riding. Our geometries and stiffness insure the maneuverability needed to excel. From $600.

    Model 1900 Adventure Cycle

    New for '96, our model 1900 Adventure Cycle frameset builds into a bike ideal for both cross-continent unsupported touring as well as commuting around town. Clearance for big 700x40C tires, canti-brake studs, double front and rear eyelets, rack braze-ons, triple water bottle bosses support all the creature features you'll ever need. Twenty-one standard sizes. From $1,100.


    Waterford's current Triathlon/Time-Trial/Multisport line is the TT-33/TT-22/TT-14 and these models are available in 700C and 650C wheel options.

    the "650B" in the "What We Build" descriptions above may well be a misprint. Early nineties Paramount literature from Schwinn describes Waterford built road Paramounts as available in either 700C or OS-26" versions (the latter having "26-inch wheels").
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    Quote Originally Posted by guygadois View Post
    ask him to put it back up with a buy it now option. Use the current eBay 25% off coupon and it is yours cheap(er).
    Links to the coupon code?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbjack View Post
    Links to the coupon code?

    I thought everyone knew this little trick...
    • Go to http://www.live.com
    • Type in "XBOX 360" into the search area and search for it.
    • Check the add at the top about 25% off (sometimes it is 30%, try seraching different terms)
    • The link will then go to eBay where you have 20 minutes (I think that is the time) to search for something and buy it.
    • You have to buy something with a Buy It Now option and pay with Paypal.

      When you press Buy It Now it will confirm it is a qualified purchase or not.

      After you purchase you get an e-mail within eBay to a link to go to your Microsoft account and get the rebate which takes like 60 days to get.

      I have done it on three items although it has been under 60 days so i haven't gotten the check from Microsoft.

      There is a max of $200 of rebate money per item.

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    Excellent, thanks!

    I'd heard of the live.com coupon, but hadn't really looked into it.

    Now I just need to find a worthwhile BIN...maybe this:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/STASH-FUTURA-200...3A1|240%3A1318

    Edit: Oh, didn't see the $200 max caveat. Guess I won't be shaving $25k off my polkadot purchase.

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    Excellent, thanks!

    I'd heard of the live.com coupon, but hadn't really looked into it.

    Now I just need to find a worthwhile BIN...maybe this:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/STASH-FUTURA-200...3A1|240%3A1318

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    I was really tempted to buy this, and if I were a little more flush, I might have.

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    Stinks that they require IE to get the coupon. Not on my PC any longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kk4df View Post
    Stinks that they require IE to get the coupon. Not on my PC any longer.
    ?? I use Firefox and it has worked 3 times this week. What browser are you using?
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