CV-6 

re: the great Paramount debate.

Here is the original thread when Joe found the bike.

Per the relevant Waterford pages , Paramount production started again in 1983. Joe's bike is dated 1984. So it could be a custom build, but the dating puts it in the revived Paramount production run. Either way it is a Waterford built frame. How it is labeled and presented is splitting hairs. The fact remains that it was marketed as a Schwinn Paramount.

DRietz

Uh... sorry to interrupt you guys, but does anyone have something like an old Flite or Avocet saddle?

cudak888 

Ahem - 1982 SCHWINN Paramount:

https://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1...0/1982_05.html

Custom-fit, they were. As for distribution, I'd be pretty ticked off if I went to a Schwinn dealer in 1982 to order what is advertised in the 1982 Schwinn catalog as a Schwinn Paramount, and told that I can't buy a Schwinn Paramount or order a Schwinn Paramount at a Schwinn dealer.

Furthermore - explain to me, under that logic, why the Waterford-built Paramount Elite and Standards are listed in the 1984 Schwinn catalog. Also, please explain to me why the Custom Paramount is labeled, in the ad copy, as a Schwinn Paramount.

https://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1...984Ltwt04.html

What's more, the Paramount standards in the catalog carry the 1983 rainbow decals:

https://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1...984Ltwt05.html

Gladly. If the above is not sufficient, following is Chris Carmichael riding a team-issue 1983 Schwinn Paramount, under Schwinn team colors, with the 1983 rainbow decals, PLUS a Schwinn decal slapped to the top tube for good measure.



Dispute that.

Case closed.

-Kurt

P.S.: Are you suggesting that if it wasn't built at the Chicago cage, it isn't a "real Schwinn Paramount?"

Grand Bois

He won't admit that he's wrong. He never does.

cudak888 

I don't mind that so much, it's just that he has to invent (reinvent?) the most incontestable topics possible.

-Kurt

unworthy1

I love it when these guys get in the cage together!
I have a couple possibilities: a Flight in dark blue with some issues; a Selle Italia SuperLeggere (made by same factory as one of the early Avocet Racing I, has alloy rails and one cosmetic issue)

cudak888 

Speaking of which, I could use some brown, Toshi stitch-on bar covers.

EDIT: Also need Campagnolo toe clip mounting hardware - the 4 bolts and washers needed to mount a pair of toe clips to a pair of Campagnolo pedals, like so:



-Kurt

miamijim

I have an Avocet. You have anything that'll look slick on a 1980 Colnago Mexico?

Otto Rax

See what I need and what I have in my post on page 147.
Here are some additions:

HAVE:
Pair of Royale Comp brakes in VGC
White Modolo aero levers, with white hoods in VGC
White Team Modolo brake calipers NOS
2 red/black vittoria saffiro pro tires w/ less than 100 mi. on them
57cm 1983 Miyata 1200 (gold with brown headtube, superbe pro dropouts, etc)
Dia Compe NGC (New Grande Comp) 400 brake calipers
SR Aerox Crankset
Suntour Cyclone MKII FD & RD


SEEKING:
700c wheelset w/ 6-spd cluster, japanese
Leather saddle, well broken in and supple
1980s Schwinn Peloton or SuperSport in 60cm+
Schwinn Voyageur SP in 60cm+, or other larger touring frame


Trying to finish up a mixte build for my girlfriend so she can ride with me.

mazdaspeed

I have an unused 7 speed hyperglide 11-28 cassette, and a used 9 speed hyperglide cassette.

cudak888 

What are you looking for? I could use the former.

-Kurt

DRietz

Well, what color is the Mexico? I have a beat to crap Flite that I can get for you, or I can just use that one. Your choice.

mazdaspeed

JIS square taper crankset, saddle maybe, hubs/rims, dura ace things

cudak888 

Any particular saddle?

-Kurt

mazdaspeed

Something comfortable and made for a big saddle to handlebar drop, in other words, a racing type saddle. A brooks would be nice but theyre worth more than my cassette...lol

joe englert

hey, what happened to e just e. did he give up? -sorry, i shouldnt have mentioned it.

sciencemonster

Have some look pedals off this bike:

DSCN3879..jpg

Need rat trap pedals off some sort.

Also need two vintage derailleur hangers for a couple 70s Raleigh frames I want to build up..

23skidoo

Otto Rax I'd be very interested in the Modolo calipers and levers; I have an Ideale 80 that's in excellent condition, as well as a tan Selle Anatomic and a chocolate Selle San Marco, both suede and softer than the Ideale. I could have a polished NR 2-bolt seatpost lying around in a box as well.

stausty

Getting back to building a couple bikes after a move, so hopefully I can piece together enough parts through trades from this stuff:

Derailleurs + shifters

Suntour Cyclone 3rd gen RD + FD
Shimano 500 RD
Shimano Light Action RD + FD + 6s shifters
Shimano 600 Arabesque DT shifters (clamp-on)
Suntour Alpha 4050
Shimano and Suntour bar-ends

Gears

Atom Compact 6s FRENCH THREAD
Shimano 600 Uniglide 6s - 13-21 and 13-24
Shimano Uniglide 6s 13-30
Nuovo Record chainring 53t near NOS
Campy Nuovo Record arms - 170 mm - w/ NR and TA rings (52/41, respectively)

Brakes

Shimano STX flat-bar levers
Dia-compe Aero levers, no hoods
Dura-Ace BR7400 front caliper
Viscount levers + cracked hoods
Weinmann levers with white(ish) Carlton hoods
Universal center-pull set - levers and calipers

Pedals
Viscount alloy pedals
KKT Pro Vic II w/ clips and straps
White Look pedals w/ cleats
Generic platforms - bit of rust but spin well

Stems

Ambrosio - 120 mm reach
Viscount ~ 80 mm reach
SR custom - 100 mm reach

Wheel Bits

Ofmega hub set, English thread, 36h
Hi-flange Campy record w/ flat QR, 36 h
High-flange Normandy x 2 - one complete, one shell
29 DT Swiss Competition 2.0/1.8/2.0 SS spokes, 292 mm, with nipples

WANTED

Campy Ergo Levers - Broken, forgotten, and otherwise unloved for repair and refurbishment
Campy 8s RD, hubs, and cassette
700c rims
42 cm + drop bars, 26.0 mm or 25.4 mm clamp
Braze-on FD
ISO headset - one cheap and one not so cheap, chrome preferred
Short-reach caliper brakes
Weinmann center-pull calipers

champion city

I have a number of the things you're after, check your pm's!

sjpitts 

Just considering options

Have: DA 7700 front and rear hubs. 28h. Titanium hub body. NOS. Mavic reflex rims. 28h. A few storage scratches, but also NOS.

Consider trading for: Similar components or wheelset with 32h or 36h- something a 220lber can ride. Must be 130mm, 8/9/10 speed shimano compatible. Wouldn't mind a downgrade if trading for complete built up wheels. I am not sure I want to do this, but I am thinking about it.

This stuff is in Arizona.

20grit

ISO:
cinelli stem (and possibly handlebar. have a 66-40, would like to have a 66-44, possible trade?). 26.4mm clamp. headset is 25.8mm
32h dura ace rear hub, hyperglide.
dura ace rear skewers for 8/9/10 sp. (2)

brown leather saddle, non-brooks type (though i might be ok with an ideale) Looking for Regals, flites, etc.
Downtube cable stops. Mounting on a boss that currently has campy friction shifters on it.

divineAndbright

A few things I have for trade:


bars are ambrosio deep drops, 13 volte campion del mondo, they are 39cm center to center at the drops, 26.4 clamp. Gold hub is 36h Rino, 126mm/oln. various freewheels, mostly regina and shimano, all 6sp and besides a 5 speed regina.


a bolt snapped on the 600 pedals, bit will need to be drilled out and a replacement screw found.




suntour 7 speed barcons



stuff im looking for...
8 and 10 speed shimano cassette no low gear exceeding 25t please.
a good suntour front derailleur for vintage steel frame
cinelli 1a stem 80mm reach
28 hole clincher rim(s)
aluminum fork for 1" headtube, 16,17 cm steer tube length
any interesting road stuff

jebensch

Want:

Park Tensiometer (anyone give up on wheelbuilding and maybe have one just sitting there, lonely and dusty?)

Have:

older Campy, SunTour, brakes, derailleurs, etc. tubies, some hubs...

joe englert

Trade 54cm De Rosa professional for...........7-11 team murray bike(serotta) not looking for replica-looking for the real deal(the red and white fade job