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Old 02-16-14, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cyclotoine
All the superbe pedals I have owned took generic cartridge bearings.


I need the cones as well. Are the cones the same in the Cyclone Pedals as the Superbe?
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitlatch


I need the cones as well. Are the cones the same in the Cyclone Pedals as the Superbe?

That is what I don't understand. Are these an early version with loose ball bearing?

Every pair I have come across just took a cartridge which was a generic size one could order from Enduro, for example.
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitlatch
I need the cones as well. Are the cones the same in the Cyclone Pedals as the Superbe?
SunTour Superbe pedals came in two distinct varieties: the 1st generation, which was pretty much a Campagnolo "Record" quill pedal clone, and the 2nd generation (also called ("Superbe Pro"), which used an extruded body, sealed bearings and replaceable cages.

The first generation pedal had loose balls and cones, and you could likely use parts from other Campy clone pedals (MKS "Sylvan," etc.) as replacements:



The 2nd generation pedal was an entirely different design, and doesn't use separate cones, but sealed cartridge bearings. It has a superficial resemblance to the later Cyclone pedal, but shares no parts, as the Cyclone used traditional loose balls and cones.





Which do you have?
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Originally Posted by cyclotoine
That is what I don't understand. Are these an early version with loose ball bearing?

Every pair I have come across just took a cartridge which was a generic size one could order from Enduro, for example.
Well I am embarrassed!! I bought the Superbe pedals cheap off ebay. One pedal does not spin very well. The other was perfect. I am used to the Cyclone pedal that looks the same as the Superbe but has cones and loose bearings so when I opened this one up The cartridge stayed in the pedal body. All I saw was a bare spindle and thought it was missing its bearings. I learn something new every day. Just wish I did not do it in front of so many people. LOL I get today`s dumb ass award?
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My pair of Superbe pedals also take cartridge bearings. I was surprised when I saw the post for bearing cones and bearings for Superbe pedals. I didn't realize that some didn't have cartridge bearings.

Originally Posted by cyclotoine
All the superbe pedals I have owned took generic cartridge bearings.
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In my pathetic attempt at a defense, I never have seen a Cartridge Bearing before tonight. Everything I ever touched had loose or caged bearings.
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There you go steve. JohnD for the win with an example of early cone style loose ball pedals. You're not a dumb a$$, just an honest mistake. I suspected you had cartridges because those are the only ones I have ever seen but I know anything is possible and John proved that there is an earlier version without cartridge.
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitlatch
I am used to the Cyclone pedal that looks the same as the Superbe but has cones and loose bearings so when I opened this one up The cartridge stayed in the pedal body. All I saw was a bare spindle and thought it was missing its bearings.
Well, you're already most of the way to resurrecting that pedal. Now that you have the spindle out, you just need to pull the cartridges. If you can find a bearing puller small enough to fit, it makes the job easier:



Otherwise, a long punch inserted through the pedal body can drive the cartridge out. Take the cartridges to an industrial bearing supplier (or find the part number on the seal and look it up on the internet) to match a new set of cartridges.

Take some care pressing the new cartridges into the pedal body so they go in straight and you're not pounding on the bearings.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Well, you're already most of the way to resurrecting that pedal. Now that you have the spindle out, you just need to pull the cartridges. If you can find a bearing puller small enough to fit, it makes the job easier:



Otherwise, a long punch inserted through the pedal body can drive the cartridge out. Take the cartridges to an industrial bearing supplier (or find the part number on the seal and look it up on the internet) to match a new set of cartridges.

Take some care pressing the new cartridges into the pedal body so they go in straight and you're not pounding on the bearings.
Thanks for the tips and all of the help.
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ISO: A set of hub innerds that are compatible with Shimano 105SC hubs, including dust caps things. If you have a cracked Shimano hub from the early to mid 90's it would probably work.

I also need some rivet nuts threaded for water bottle cage bolts. M5x0.8mm thread. I can't seem to find anywhere online willing to sell quantities less than 10
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Originally Posted by degan
ISO: A set of hub innerds that are compatible with Shimano 105SC hubs, including dust caps things. If you have a cracked Shimano hub from the early to mid 90's it would probably work.

I also need some rivet nuts threaded for water bottle cage bolts. M5x0.8mm thread. I can't seem to find anywhere online willing to sell quantities less than 10
You have a metric Rivnut tool? I have inserts....
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Originally Posted by degan
ISO: A set of hub innerds that are compatible with Shimano 105SC hubs, including dust caps things. If you have a cracked Shimano hub from the early to mid 90's it would probably work.

I also need some rivet nuts threaded for water bottle cage bolts. M5x0.8mm thread. I can't seem to find anywhere online willing to sell quantities less than 10
10 riv-nuts can't cost more than a couple bucks.. why not order 10 and have spares on hand? I like to put them in chainstay bridge holes for cleaner fender mounts.. might be a way you can use up the extras.
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ISO: a tall order. I am looking for a 44cm drop bar in 25.4... no ergo bend, I need to get it in a traditional quill stem. It's for a flp, I don't even care what colour they are.

-0r-

an inexpensive moustache bar.

Have: I have many things to trade including narrow nitto randonneur bars. You know how the same 40cm bars came on every back BITD? Yeah I can't ride this 25" touring bike with those bars and the test rider will just marvel in discomfort if they ride this thing, so I need something wider. I don't want to drop big coin for new nitto bars but I might have too if I want to get this thing out the door.

Cheep online suggestions for where I might find such a handlebar also welcome.
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I buy them here for under $20. But of course the shipping would be ridiculous. Asi es la vida.
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You have a metric Rivnut tool? I have inserts....
If you have a couple I'd be interested in some. I was going to use an alternative method to install it.

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10 riv-nuts can't cost more than a couple bucks.. why not order 10 and have spares on hand? I like to put them in chainstay bridge holes for cleaner fender mounts.. might be a way you can use up the extras.
Yeah, its not much, but I know there are people here who have a open box sitting around collecting dust. I'd rather ask first before buying buying my own.
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Originally Posted by cyclotoine
ISO: a tall order. I am looking for a 44cm drop bar in 25.4... no ergo bend, I need to get it in a traditional quill stem. It's for a flp, I don't even care what colour they are.

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an inexpensive moustache bar.

Have: I have many things to trade including narrow nitto randonneur bars. You know how the same 40cm bars came on every back BITD? Yeah I can't ride this 25" touring bike with those bars and the test rider will just marvel in discomfort if they ride this thing, so I need something wider. I don't want to drop big coin for new nitto bars but I might have too if I want to get this thing out the door.

Cheep online suggestions for where I might find such a handlebar also welcome.
Let me look in the big box...I just traded away a 46cm Chinese 25.4 carbon bar. Shipping is about $10 Con US
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Originally Posted by cyclotoine
ISO: a tall order. I am looking for a 44cm drop bar in 25.4... no ergo bend, I need to get it in a traditional quill stem. It's for a flp, I don't even care what colour they are.

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an inexpensive moustache bar.

Have: I have many things to trade including narrow nitto randonneur bars. You know how the same 40cm bars came on every back BITD? Yeah I can't ride this 25" touring bike with those bars and the test rider will just marvel in discomfort if they ride this thing, so I need something wider. I don't want to drop big coin for new nitto bars but I might have too if I want to get this thing out the door.

Cheep online suggestions for where I might find such a handlebar also welcome.
I have a set of 25.4 silver bars that are 46cm ctc with a traditional bend. I don't need them and would LOVE to get them somewhere they can be used. Let me know if you're interested.
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Originally Posted by cyclotoine
ISO: a tall order. I am looking for a 44cm drop bar in 25.4... no ergo bend, I need to get it in a traditional quill stem. It's for a flp, I don't even care what colour they are.

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an inexpensive moustache bar.

Have: I have many things to trade including narrow nitto randonneur bars. You know how the same 40cm bars came on every back BITD? Yeah I can't ride this 25" touring bike with those bars and the test rider will just marvel in discomfort if they ride this thing, so I need something wider. I don't want to drop big coin for new nitto bars but I might have too if I want to get this thing out the door.

Cheep online suggestions for where I might find such a handlebar also welcome.
Wheels of Steel has some in the FS thread. 3TTT
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ISO: Serotta Colorado III or CDA (all steel) 58TT or something interesting in True Temper S3 or Moser Leader AX…F/F/HS mainly.

Also interested in Campy 11s bits.

…or ???

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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Wheels of Steel has some in the FS thread. 3TTT
thanks, I did see that and I am thinking about it. I would have to buy a 26.0 stem for it though, which is not out of the question...
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ISO a red Flite or Flite-like saddle. I don't have much in my parts bin left, but ask anyway.

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ISO:

2 x 700c rims, 32H, silver (non-polished) or hard ano preferred.
Black HF rear track hub, a formula or something would be just fine.

I have some things to trade, please PM if you have the above.

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Yeah, its not much, but I know there are people here who have a open box sitting around collecting dust. I'd rather ask first before buying buying my own.
You ever watch 'Shark Tank'?
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https://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/4340220977.html

Notoriously hard to get tires onto and off, or maybe those are the Melbourne's.

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2 x 700c rims, 32H, silver (non-polished) or hard ano preferred.
Black HF rear track hub, a formula or something would be just fine.

I have some things to trade, please PM if you have the above.
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