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Old 11-28-08, 07:47 AM   #1
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Batavus Sprint Campagnolo 10 Speed (pics)--any info or advice on restoration?

I found this on Ebay, snagged it for $60 (with the live cash-back thing and local pickup).
The seller had it mis-listed as a "Type Spirit", but I was able to identify it as a "Sprint" after googling up pictures of another bike
with the top tube markings less worn. The auction identified it as 57cm, and from the 80's.

I don't know if this is a slight mis-measurement or if the frame was actually produced in 1cm increments.

Here's the bike (pics from the auction, I don't have it yet)





I've tried to look through some of the Dutch sites, but I can barely make anything out,
and from what I could understand it would appear the "Sprint" has been produced through a
number of different generations from different materials and with different equipment configurations.
Some of them appeared to indicate that the frame is at least part or possibly full Reynolds 531.

The closest one I've been able to find is this:

Identified as a " '60s Batavus Sprint" by the MSU Used Bike Shop. (Sorry for the size, that's how it is on MSU's server.)

Twenty years is a big difference. Can anyone weigh in one way or the other?

I figured with a Batavus frame and Campy parts I couldn't really go wrong @ $60, but I'd like to know more about this bike.
Manufacturer specifications would be great--comments from anyone who has owned one would be even better.

I'd be especially interested in any useful information on fixing it up--tips, tricks, any sticking points I might not be aware of.

Thanks!

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Old 11-28-08, 08:09 AM   #2
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Neat Batavus,

It's way older than the 80's, With cottered crankset and Valentino derrailleurs, I'd guess late 60's.
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Old 11-28-08, 01:20 PM   #3
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Does anyone know if the front fork shown in the pics above could be original?
The pics I've dug up of this model show a painted front fork. (like the big one above)
I can't figure out if there was a configuration w/a chrome front fork.

Am I correct in thinking the BB/cranks on this should be standard English threads?

From what I've read the cranks are junky and should be replaced with something of equivalent quality to the Campy Valentino derailleurs.

I'd also be curious if there are any replacement decals available.
I'd imagine they're going to be tough to find outside of Benelux (especially for Anglophones.)

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Old 11-28-08, 02:39 PM   #4
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That crank is on par with the Valentino derailleur it was pretty bad stuff.
Not sure about the front fork. You might try contacting Batavus, they are still in business.
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Ah. I thought the Valentino stuff was a bit better than that. Oh well.

I'll drop Batavus a line once I can get my hands on the bike and get better pictures, and will see if they can help me. It'd be nice to at least identify the tubing.

I think this bike was made before they became part of the ATAG group or whatever. I'm not sure how much information they'll have about these models, but perhaps I'll get lucky.
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Its an entry level bike late 60's or early 70s I would doubt that the frame material is anythink other than seemed steel tubing.
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Advice?

Do what you wish with it, but don't do so thinking you're going to turn around and make any money if/when you decide to sell it. I'd change out the crankset to cotterless, or a decent Stronglight cottered set, and ditch the chrome rims if I planned to ride it.

From looking at the lugs, this isn't one of the years they used 531 tubing.
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Nah, I'm not planning on trying to make money on it.
I buy bikes to ride them, or because they pique my interest/curiousity.
I've only ever flipped a couple of my purchases, due to truly incompatible fit.

That's the kind of guidance I was looking for. I won't be upset if it's plain tubing, I'll have a bike to pull the trailer I've been meaning to build w/o having to worry about damaging something 'valuable.'
Changing the cranks does seem like the first thing to do. Changing the rims would be for better braking, right?
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Here's a scan of a page of a Batavus catalogue, probably c. 1980, in English, so aimed at the American market.
In this catalogue the Sprint is second from the bottom in the line-up. Tubing is gas-pipe or 'Batavus precision steel tubing' as the catalogue courteously calls it.
Your 'Sprint' is a bit earlier, but no older than 1970. Thats the year when Batavus acquired Phoenix-Fongers-Germaan and changed the name of the company to Batavus Intercycle BV (you can see the 'IC' logo on the frame).

Dont spend too much on it .... there are nicer Batavus bikes than this one!

Oh, forgot. This link gives some Batavus history, albeit in Dutch: http://www.rijwiel.net/batavu2n.htm The first digit of your framenumber should be the year (f.i. 1 for 71). I hope ...
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