Happy Birthday to me - the new frame set showed up!
11-29-08, 10:36 AM
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Nice frame Bossman. How about a close-up of that seat lug; looks like the stays wrap completely around, or perhaps its just the lighting.
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11-29-08, 11:18 AM
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This frame is the full MAX tubeset.
Apart from the first generation of Eddy Merckx MX Leaders, the Merckx bikes were not built with the full MAX tubeset, they were built with a combination of MAX and ELOS.
The Merckx bikes used the MAX fork, the MAX downtube and chainstays, combined with ELOS top tube, seat tube and seat stays.
The seat stays on BBM's bike are in fact a wrap-around stay, which is interesting given that I think this frame was built by Colnago.
Apart from the first generation of Eddy Merckx MX Leaders, the Merckx bikes were not built with the full MAX tubeset, they were built with a combination of MAX and ELOS.
The Merckx bikes used the MAX fork, the MAX downtube and chainstays, combined with ELOS top tube, seat tube and seat stays.
The seat stays on BBM's bike are in fact a wrap-around stay, which is interesting given that I think this frame was built by Colnago.
11-29-08, 12:38 PM
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11-29-08, 05:32 PM
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11-29-08, 06:19 PM
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So, BBM pops in here to post a teaser pic of the frame then disappears. I suspect the next photo we see if this frame it will be completely built and photographed out on the road somewhere.
11-29-08, 09:08 PM
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Happy Birthday BBM!
And congratulations on the new frame!
And congratulations on the new frame!
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11-29-08, 09:15 PM
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@bigbossman ,
Do you have any other frame sets that has MAX tubing in this oversized Ovalized style ?
Just courious , because i am building up a Merckx with this same tubing and the fork is identicle to yours .
I would like to know the quality difference in the ride from other Columbus top tubing . ?
Cheers
T
Do you have any other frame sets that has MAX tubing in this oversized Ovalized style ?
Just courious , because i am building up a Merckx with this same tubing and the fork is identicle to yours .
I would like to know the quality difference in the ride from other Columbus top tubing . ?
Cheers
T
I rode this Dancelli once in October, for 24 miles. I liked it.
I'm old enough so that women look through me, not at me. Makes it easier to be a lech.
Seriously though, I was gone all day today, selling stuff at the SF VeloSwap to help make back some of the $$ I spent on the Dancelli. I ended up selling a couple of flippers, a set of wheels, and a beater Ciocc frame that more than made up the purchase price - and I even nabbed a NOS set of Centaur 10 speed alloy shifters in the bargain.
Go ahead and laugh at my pink frame w/sparkles - this frame-set (and the shifters, too!) was free.
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11-29-08, 09:19 PM
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Ain't nothin' wrong with pink. the Maglia Rosa has been worn by a lotta tough guys.
11-29-08, 09:31 PM
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Nothin wrong with the color, nor the sparkles, IMHO. It's the ride that counts as they say. Great to hear you had a good day at the swap. We had a swap meet here in Dallas this morning, but after my recent CL buy, I figured it was a better idea to go ride than to browse for more. Good catch on the Centaur 10sp alloy shifters. Wish I'd managed to snag a set of those when I was looking for shifters. All my Campy 10sp gear has the carbon levers. Perhaps a bit out of place on the Gazelle, but with my hands wrapped around them charging down the road, no one is the wiser!
11-30-08, 01:39 AM
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11-30-08, 01:51 PM
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those don't so much as wrap around, but completely disappear into the seat lug. Beautiful!
11-30-08, 01:55 PM
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Exactly so. This is a hobby - I enjoy building and riding bikes, and I love posessing and riding beautiful ones. They aren't free, and I have familial responsibilities. So, I "trade up".
Everybody's happy.
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11-30-08, 03:02 PM
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This frame is the full MAX tubeset.
Apart from the first generation of Eddy Merckx MX Leaders, the Merckx bikes were not built with the full MAX tubeset, they were built with a combination of MAX and ELOS.
The Merckx bikes used the MAX fork, the MAX downtube and chainstays, combined with ELOS top tube, seat tube and seat stays.
The seat stays on BBM's bike are in fact a wrap-around stay, which is interesting given that I think this frame was built by Colnago.
Apart from the first generation of Eddy Merckx MX Leaders, the Merckx bikes were not built with the full MAX tubeset, they were built with a combination of MAX and ELOS.
The Merckx bikes used the MAX fork, the MAX downtube and chainstays, combined with ELOS top tube, seat tube and seat stays.
The seat stays on BBM's bike are in fact a wrap-around stay, which is interesting given that I think this frame was built by Colnago.
I have an Eddy MERckx MXL (2003). Are you saying that my bike is part ELOS and part MXL? Do you think that the presence of ELOS tubes takes away from the ride of the MX Leader, makes it lighter or is just a way to save money? What can you expect from a full MXL that you can't from a mix?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
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11-30-08, 09:49 PM
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BBossMan,
In looking at your close up of the seat lug back (pic inserted), I noticed a point for concern. Basso Ascot frames, another variant of the Max tubed frames, have a problem with cracking at the thermometer shaped cut-out bottom. The cracks look very muck like the white mark on the driveside of your seatstay/seatlug mating point. You may want to check that area closely for the possibility of a future (and dramatic) failure there.
In looking at your close up of the seat lug back (pic inserted), I noticed a point for concern. Basso Ascot frames, another variant of the Max tubed frames, have a problem with cracking at the thermometer shaped cut-out bottom. The cracks look very muck like the white mark on the driveside of your seatstay/seatlug mating point. You may want to check that area closely for the possibility of a future (and dramatic) failure there.
