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Old 12-18-08, 02:58 AM   #51
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yeah i saw that one, unfortunately it's a 54, i ride a 58, can go down to a 56 but that's it, 54 would probably be uncomfortable for me, too bad cause that is a NICE bike
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Old 12-18-08, 05:50 AM   #52
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http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/bik/956510013.html

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Old 12-18-08, 08:46 AM   #53
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I had a Technium 440 for a while, with stock 27" wheels it was 25#. I could get it down to 23.5 by changing the wheels, but I didn't like the handling so I sold it cheap to a friend.
I had an Atala 1981 Campione d'Italia, also 23# even with some weight-weenie parts (pedals, saddle), likewise my Shogun 400 for commuting is 23#. Even my old full-Campy Alan was pushing 22-23.
My recently built Vitus 979 is 19#. So I have to concur with the other posters- a "typical" good 80's road bike is going to be about 22-23 pounds, and if you want to go lighter, it's going to be aluminum, tubulars, perhaps updating to carbon fork & seatpost, etc. If you want it to be chaep, and a commuter, going for light weight isn't a practical way to go, anyway.
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Old 12-18-08, 08:54 AM   #54
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I'm looking for a bike with all these qualities but not French. I've heard, and your last comment seems to confirm, that they needs lots of love. Are there other models with these qualities but without the maint. issues.. oh and they'd have to come in small size too. Heh, I'm not asking for too much am I?
My Peugeot's do not require any more maintenance than my other non-French bikes. The problem is that if you don't maintain any bike you have to replace parts and the French threaded parts are getting hard to find. I just serviced the bottom bracket on my 85 PSN10 (Super Vitus 980 frame) and it was English threaded. I found that out because the drive side cap was broken and I used one I had from my Nishiki to replace it. I think that's why I found it cheap at the thrift store. Someone must have not wanted to work on it. I think this frame can give my CF Kestrel a run for it's money in the weight dept.
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Old 12-18-08, 09:30 AM   #55
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+1 on that frame. Got one & love it!
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Old 12-18-08, 01:52 PM   #56
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Honestly, why the fixation on weight? If you get a name brand, middle-of-the-line or higher bike, you're going to get something under 25 lbs (my freakin' huge Raleigh Pro is about 23 lbs with campy everything). For pretty much everything but balls-out racing, I'd expect that a sub-25lb steel frame would work fine.
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Old 12-18-08, 02:06 PM   #57
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In my experience, a truly sub-20 lb bike was a rarity and usually involved some pretty extreme compromises. Even then, when you did see a 20 pounder, it was usually a tiny size, too.

Get a lightweight bike. Raleigh Pro's, top of the line Bianchi's, etc are great bikes with great components and can be found at reasonable prices. Buy a 531 frame in an appropriate size outfitted with Nuovo Record components. That will be a good vintage bike - guaranteed!

If you want a status symbol, buy the MASI (or whatever). It will also be a good bike.

Want it to feel light, lighter than it is? Do yourself a favor - be sure your new machine has light-weight rims and light-weight but great quality tires (for example, tubular tires or the Challenge "open tubulars").
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thanks man, but first one is too pink second one is too much work and third one is too expensive

i already got the raleigh, it's a cool bike, light enough, smooth enough, took it to the lbs for a 60 dollar tune up

gotta get used to the old school shifting, unfortunately none of the spare parts i had lying around would fit it, so my upgradeitis is dead until i get the sram group for my CF bike and transfer the ultegra to this bike (if its even possible)
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Remember that bike weight depends on frame size, stem length, seat post length, your own weight, and on the roads on which you ride, so it depends how light you can get or want to get. I ride 58cm seat tube c-to-c and have several Italian bikes in Columbus tubing ranging from 22.5 to 23.1 pounds, and I'm not trying for light wheels and tires due to rough roads and my own weight.
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In my experience, a truly sub-20 lb bike was a rarity and usually involved some pretty extreme compromises.
+1. My Sekai 5000 is a 5 lb. frameset, 19.75 lbs. as originally built. Extreme compromise: the tubing is .6 x .3 mm, which is so thin that it bends when you squeeze it with your fingers. That scared Gary Fisher when he test-rode it in 1977, but he liked the ride. It does dent easily.

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Even then, when you did see a 20 pounder, it was usually a tiny size, too.
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Want it to feel light, lighter than it is? Do yourself a favor - be sure your new machine has light-weight rims and light-weight but great quality tires (for example, tubular tires or the Challenge "open tubulars").
It has Fiamme Ergal Gold Label tubular rims.

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This is an old thread and I am about to try to shed some of my body weight in order to ride my sub 14lb. Vitus, completely custom. Very little magnetic on this 57cm beauty. Wheels by Dave Thomas with the front wheel tipping the scales at 495 grams! FiberFlite carbon fiber spokes date the machine. cinelli1R stem bolt anD I even have a spare! Brody magnesium wedge and a Sachs-Huret magnesium freewheel, lots of rare obsolete parts made this machine quick and unique. Mark
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This is an old thread and I am about to try to shed some of my body weight in order to ride my sub 14lb. Vitus, completely custom. Very little magnetic on this 57cm beauty. Wheels by Dave Thomas with the front wheel tipping the scales at 495 grams! FiberFlite carbon fiber spokes date the machine. cinelli1R stem bolt anD I even have a spare! Brody magnesium wedge and a Sachs-Huret magnesium freewheel, lots of rare obsolete parts made this machine quick and unique. Mark
Welcome.

You should start a new thread...with lots of pictures!
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Yes, Please take pics asap for us, before the super weenie Vitus flies away with the wind......
And then we might assume the uber weenie ("completely custom"?? Were you cutting the frame tubes short too??) bike "never happened".....

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