screwdriver

If I've already ask this question before, I've slept since then.
I bought this thinking it was a match for my front Campy Tipo. Unfortunately it's not. I should have known better because the amount of hole around the flange. I wasn't paying attention. Now I still have a front Tipo without a matching rear hub and a rear hub without a matching front of what ever this one is. Does anyone know what model Campagnolo hub it is?

JunkYardBike

Nuovo Tipo?

JunkYardBike

I see what you mean. Velobase.com shows the Nuovo Tipo having fewer cutouts than Gran Sport:

Gran Sport

Nuovo Tipo

luker

Show us a picture of the other side. I think that this is a high flange Victory hub from 1984, although the catalog shows a top-down image so I can't really count the holes. I didn't realize that they made such an animal until you brought this up...

Charles Wahl

The quick-release nut looks old-style Gran Sport, and the QR lever looks post-CPSC. While the hub looks like a Nuovo Tipo, I've never seen one with that many holes, either. Luker may be onto it.

screwdriver

This is a picture of the other end. The original picture showed the wrong quick release. I changed it because it was to long to tighten down on the drop-out. I re-installed the original Q.R.

screwdriver

There are 11 holes. The Tipo has only 9 holes.

cuda2k

Interesting indeed. The logo appears to be later (80's or so?). You say that the QR isn't original? Luker may be on to something with the HF Victory, haven't seen one in person, but it does have a resemblance to the low flange Victory that I have on my desk at work.

luker

is a rare piece, looks like. It is, with that skewer, a 1984 Triomphe high flange hub from the Leisure gruppo, page 5 of the 1984 combined parts catalog. The bearing flange on the non-drive side gives it away (and all of those holes). I've never seen another. The only external difference with the 1984 high-flange Victory is the skewer...

Good luck on pairing it up!

screwdriver

Thanks for input guys. I wasn't so interested in a collector hubs. I was only looking to find a mate for my front Campy Tipo.

cuda2k

Mind if I snag those photos for velobase?

screwdriver

Double Post.

screwdriver

Not a problem. I was just looking at a pretty intense Velobase List of Campy parts and did not find one of these Triomphe hubs. I did find a Triomphe small flange hub that had the same Skewer.

I could take a better picture if you had rather.

cudak888 

What is the rear spacing?

By any chance...is this high-flange Euclid?

-Kurt

screwdriver

Some of the others seem to think it's a Triomphe rear hub. The rear spacing is 120mm.

cudak888 

The skewer is Triomphe, but I've never seen Triomphe offered in high-flange.

-Kurt

luker

The high-flange Euclid looks a whole lot like the sheriff's star C-Record. This hub is only found in the 1984 parts catalog (I dug through all of 'em last night).

cudak888 

Do you have a photo of it, by any chance (and perhaps a scan of that catalog too?)

-Kurt

cuda2k

Kurt - see velobase for a photo. I updated an existing component which had been labeled as "C-record prototype" to the correct "Euclid High Flange" just a few weeks ago.

cudak888 

Jon - I wouldn't venture to say they're Euclid high flangers just yet. The owner of the hubs seemed to be quite certain about that fact, and he had some pretty extensive Campagnolo knowledge. I wouldn't be so quick to say one or the other (and I'm more likely to believe proto C-Record, particularly with that fake dustcap) before digging up a photo of true Euclid high-flangers (which seem to be impossible to find themselves).

-Kurt

cuda2k

https://www.classicbikeparts.de/infos/euclid.pdf has a photo with the high flange. not a great photo, but a photo. QR doesn't match the one on velobase (which seems to be missing from some search results... wonder what's going on there...), but I know as much as anyone how easy it is to mix-n-match QR's.

cudak888 

Finally - I have been dying to see the entirety of the Euclid catalog for a while now. Funny - I was told that CdA had a high-flange hub variant which was identical to Euclid, except for the Q/R levers, and I don't see it in the complete CdA catalog. Very strange...

I should stick to '70s Campagnolo

-Kurt

luker

um, last year I bought one of the CD's that were on eBay with all of the catalogs and etcetera, from catalog 14 through 2008. The CD content is PDF'ed and locked from copying...and I don't have any tools at home to work on this...hmmm. Well, there is an image, of the 1984 Parts Catalog, page 4. The campy high flange hubs are shown, in a very crappy way, in the upper right of the photos. You can see the different treatment of the ends, versus the Tipo hubs. And, for that matter, the hourglass shape of the center part.

Hope they don't pop a cap up my butt for copyright infringement.

screwdriver

If this were the original QR, why will it not tighten down on the dropout enough to lock it down? The hub fits perfectly on one of my bare frames with a 120mm dropout spacing but the QR skewer will not lock down without my replacing the original QR with an extra Campy QR I have. I'm beginning to believe that this is not the original QR.

repechage

When this hub was made 126mm was the common standard. so the hub got retro spaced to 120, if it has the original axle you can respace or thread some more threads onto the QR shaft and go.