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    Help ID my old bike

    This is my early 70's Peugeut that I bought new! Can you give me a hand in figuring out the model? I was going to make a few changes for my wife to ride it. (moving the shifters from DT to the bars).

    On the frame are the words: "Tube Special" and "Allege Peugeut". Brakes are marked Mafac Racer. The FD is Suntour Sprint. I swapped out the RD for a Shimano 515 (SIS?) when the original one gave out.

    I assume it isn't worth much since it's not in pristine shape nor has all original equipment.

    Thanks for any insight into this ride. I only recently replaced it with an OCR2.

    Sheldon

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    Quote Originally Posted by nesdog
    This is my early 70's Peugeut that I bought new! Can you give me a hand in figuring out the model? I was going to make a few changes for my wife to ride it. (moving the shifters from DT to the bars).

    On the frame are the words: "Tube Special" and "Allege Peugeut". Brakes are marked Mafac Racer. The FD is Suntour Sprint. I swapped out the RD for a Shimano 515 (SIS?) when the original one gave out.

    I assume it isn't worth much since it's not in pristine shape nor has all original equipment.

    Thanks for any insight into this ride. I only recently replaced it with an OCR2.

    Sheldon
    Looks like it could be the lower end UO8 model. In the mid-70s it sold for about $125. Probably weighs about 27 lbs.

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    I agree w/ zona. U08. I had a 1969 U08 that cost like $89 new. They started putting those xtra levers on the brakes after about 1970 or 71, the rear der. style and the chainguard were new in the 70's too. The decals are the same as circa 1969. Mine had cutouts in the lugs, I think - not sure I see that on this bike. Chromed fork, not bad. I remember those cottered cranks being a b*tch to mess with...F + R Suntour or Shimano der's w/ slant pantagraph would work much better than the original Simplex crap. Aluminum rims would be an upgrade, too; but I'd keep the mafac brakes. Is that a leather seat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randya
    I agree w/ zona. U08. I had a 1969 U08 that cost like $89 new. They started putting those xtra levers on the brakes after about 1970 or 71, the rear der. style and the chainguard were new in the 70's too. The decals are the same as circa 1969. Mine had cutouts in the lugs, I think - not sure I see that on this bike. Chromed fork, not bad. I remember those cottered cranks being a b*tch to mess with...F + R Suntour or Shimano der's w/ slant pantagraph would work much better than the original Simplex crap. Aluminum rims would be an upgrade, too; but I'd keep the mafac brakes. Is that a leather seat?


    I think I paid about $250 for this bike originally. (what do ya expect from Beverly Hills?!). The extra levers for the brakes were added. I had seen them on another bike in the mid 80's and asked the LBS to come up with something similiar. Oh yeah, forgot to add the words "Record Du Monde" are on the stem.

    The seat is a leather, sprung one that I picked up about 15 years ago. I went through several saddles about that time seeking something comfy. I considered moving it to the new Giant but opted for a B17 instead. Guess I was a bit concerned about looking too goofy with my new bike!

    I only had about 3 bad tires, broke the chain only a year ago.

    This was a great bike. I put a ton of miles on it over the past 30 years. But....I got a new one for my birthday and couldn't turn it down!

    Thanks for the info, guys.

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    "I think I paid about $250 for this bike originally."

    Gah. I have the original reciept from my 1973 PX10E, the top of the Peugeot line that year and, judging by decals about the same time frame as your bike. The PX10E cost 285$ originally.

    "Record Du Monde" is on pretty much every Peugeot I've seen. Some sort of company catch phrase, I suppose.

    Your choice of the Brook saddle is excellent, BTW.

    Keep the old bike, you'll get the urge to ride it now and again, and it's always good to have a backup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poguemahone
    "I think I paid about $250 for this bike originally."

    Gah. I have the original reciept from my 1973 PX10E, the top of the Peugeot line that year and, judging by decals about the same time frame as your bike. The PX10E cost 285$ originally.

    "Record Du Monde" is on pretty much every Peugeot I've seen. Some sort of company catch phrase, I suppose.

    Your choice of the Brook saddle is excellent, BTW.

    Keep the old bike, you'll get the urge to ride it now and again, and it's always good to have a backup.

    Well, I THOUGHT I paid that much...maybe I didn't!
    I am planning on keeping the bike and setting it up for my wife. She has a 30+ plus pound Sears 10 speed that is also ancient. While it's geared similiar, my bike is much lighter.

    She doesn't like the DT shifters and has the bar top ones on her ride. I'm going to take her old ones off and move them to my old bike.

    Yeah, that bike is definately a keeper!

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    Peugeot was quite popular in the 70s. Owned a PX10, 21 lbs, Reynolds 531. Did lots of events on that PX! But then I got a Fuji Finest, after that . . .

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    So you're all like Japanese bike trumps the French bike??? I had one of each two (Peugeot + Fuji). Kept 'em both for a long time, I did. Pretty evenly matched, I'd say, once the Peugeot is updated a little...

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    Pretty bike! I'd be tempted to lose the steel cottered crank set. It must weigh a ton. I'd replace it with an alloy cotterless crank(preferably a Stronglight 93) but any would do. I suppose the bottom bracket is French threaded though. That might make it a little difficult to find a good bottom bracket for the cotterless crank.

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    Anybody know why my username prints out in lipstick red while everyone elses is in black? I know it's not because I'm a newbie here as I have seen others here newer than me who's name is in black. A small thing, but I find the red irritating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra
    Anybody know why my username prints out in lipstick red while everyone elses is in black? I know it's not because I'm a newbie here as I have seen others here newer than me who's name is in black. A small thing, but I find the red irritating
    I think it's 'cuz it's you. IOW, your user name appears black to me, as I'm sure mine does to you. When one is logged in, one's own user name appears in red. Idunno, maybe it's meant as a quick way to find your posts when scanning thru a thread...

    BTW, whatever you swap out on this bike, I'd recommend you keep the old parts, and do as little that's "irreversible" as possible. Given the incredible shape the finish is in for a bike in its thirties (it's unusual to see a 15-year-old bike with this good a finish 'round here), yeah, it was a low-end bike, but it may have some collector value base on how original it is. Try to keep it so that you can return it to its current state.

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    Thanks madpogue. Lotek private messaged me to tell me that red means that you are currently online. So what does "pogue" mean. I see we have madpogue and Poguemahone. I've never encountered the word before but it must mean something.
    BTW, I'm a fellow Madisonian.

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    If your name is in red it means that you're online. Other users currently online should also show on your screen in red, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randya
    If your name is in red it means that you're online. Other users currently online should also show on your screen in red, I think.
    That would be correct

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    Most of the information in this thread is very accurate. In 1972, UO-8s came in blue, green, and white only. The purples, reds, oranges, yellows, and champagne came in at various times between 1972 and 1974. Also around 1974, Peugeot made the stupid decision to move the Simplex shift levers to the handlebar stem, where they shifted even more sloppily, to compete with Schwinn and the Japanese.

    I commute on a highly-upgraded UO-8 (Sugino Aero crankset, SunTour Cyclone rear derailleur, "ultra-spaced" 6-speed freewheel, Shimano Titlist front derailleur, SunTour barcons, rigida aluminum rims), which I originally bought as a bare frame and built up for my wife. Save all of your original components for possible future resale (or sell them on eBay now if you lack storage space), but do consider aluminum cranks and rims and possibly SunTour derailleurs, since that basic Peugeot frame is far better than its original components.
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    "BTW, whatever you swap out on this bike, I'd recommend you keep the old parts, and do as little that's "irreversible" as possible. Given the incredible shape the finish is in for a bike in its thirties (it's unusual to see a 15-year-old bike with this good a finish 'round here), yeah, it was a low-end bike, but it may have some collector value base on how original it is. Try to keep it so that you can return it to its current state.[/QUOTE]"




    Thanks for all the great comments. The bike probably shows better in the picture than it looks in person; none of the scratches, etc. so up!

    So far, I pulled off the DT shifters and added the bar mounted ones from her old bike. I'll keep the old parts as space is no issue. I hadn't really thought about swapping cranks etc. since my wife doesn't ride that much and the added weight is no problem at the moment. I have considered swapping out the cassette for one with a slightly better climbing gear.

    Sheldon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra
    Thanks madpogue. Lotek private messaged me to tell me that red means that you are currently online. So what does "pogue" mean. I see we have madpogue and Poguemahone. I've never encountered the word before but it must mean something.
    BTW, I'm a fellow Madisonian.
    "Pogue mahone" means "kiss my @ss" in Gaelic. It's the inspiration for the name of the Irish band The Pogues (listen to local Celtic ruffians The Kissers for an idea of the Pogues' sound). Because of their reputation for being troublemakers, esp. former front-man Shane McGowan, "pogue" has come to mean "hooligan".

    And now I know something about the forums I didn't know before!

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    " 'Pogue mahone' means 'kiss my @ss' in Gaelic."

    Learned it from my father, or maybe it was a Dubliners record he had, maybe Dominic Behan. Heck if I recall, it's been a long time.

    Madison's a wonderful city-- used to haul up from Beloit just to hang out in Madison.
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    Ahh! Thanks for the explanation guys. I'm less culturally deprived now. Must admit that I haven't been keeping up with popular culture for about the last 20 years.

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    Bike like that worth 10,000 rubles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magna Man
    Bike like that worth 10,000 rubles
    Sooooo, that's what, about US$15.00?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra
    Ahh! Thanks for the explanation guys. I'm less culturally deprived now. Must admit that I haven't been keeping up with popular culture for about the last 20 years.
    &$^@^%& Onion!! They've started putting their archives for more than a few months back on a "Premium" service, meaning "pay up". Last June they had an article about you, titled "Area Man's Pop-Culture References Stop At 1988".

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