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    The Ultimate 'suicide' bicycle thread.

    Reading the 'Cinelli Suicide Pedals' thread just now prompted me to think of what would happen if we combined all the 'suicide' components in one machine?
    The ultimate put off?

    How about a frame with Viscount forks, Cinelli pedals and various vintage shifters etc.
    I'm not aware (yet) of a suicide frame but I bet there is one somewhere
    Lets hear some suggestions....

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    Although I've never seen one actually broken, the Cannondale Crit frame with the cantilever dropouts could qualify.
    Laterally stiff yet vertically compliant.

    Viscount Aerospace Pro Trek 770 Cannondale Synapse

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    Frame: Cannondale canitliver, Teledyne Titan, Kirk Precision, or Exxon Graftek
    Fork: Viscount Aerospace Pro
    Stem: AVA
    Handlebar: AVA
    Seatpost: Campagnolo C-Record or Triomphe/Victory taper (heard through the grape vine that a few might have cracked in the past)
    Saddle: Anything with a carbon frame.
    Crankset: Nuovo Record w/stress cracks
    Derailers: Simplex Prestige
    Pedals: Aformentioned Cinellis
    Brake calipers: Campagnolo Delta
    Brake levers: Modolo plastic?

    -Kurt
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    According to M. Barry (Mariposa bikes), about the Mafac GT centre pull:

    ''the Mafacs had one disconcerting feature: the brake quick release mechanism would snap open when one braked really hard''
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    way back in the archives of another section of BF there is a long thread about this.
    I have to input that the front derailleur should be simplex but the rear should be an electric Mavic.
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    A while back someone posted a picture of a Kamikazi brand bike. That would probably be appropriate for the frame.

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    A pennyfarthing with a Viscount fork.
    I have spoken.

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    The '74 Fujis had some real thin spokes.
    I have spoken.

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    Be sure to build it with chromed steel rims (no hook edge) and high pressure Kevlar bead tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailorbenjamin View Post
    The '74 Fujis had some real thin spokes.
    I had a Raleigh from that era with the same "feature". They also rusted as I recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailorbenjamin View Post
    A pennyfarthing with a Viscount fork.
    I like this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    Frame: Cannondale canitliver, Teledyne Titan, Kirk Precision, or Exxon Graftek
    Fork: Viscount Aerospace Pro
    Stem: AVA
    Handlebar: AVA
    Seatpost: Campagnolo C-Record or Triomphe/Victory taper (heard through the grape vine that a few might have cracked in the past)
    Saddle: Anything with a carbon frame.
    Crankset: Nuovo Record w/stress cracks
    Derailers: Simplex Prestige
    Pedals: Aformentioned Cinellis
    Brake calipers: Campagnolo Delta
    Brake levers: Modolo plastic?

    -Kurt
    Pretty good, I'll add that the matching plastic simplex shifters would be good with this set-up.

    Stem could also be a modolo equipe.
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    Could make it a single speed and take any freewheel hub with a track gear for the "suicide hub"

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    Whatever is used for the brakes, brake levers, crank arms, and derailleurs, be sure they get the "drillium" feature. Heck, while we're at it, drill out the handle bars, seat post and maybe the stem, too.

    As for the frame, pretty much any first-gen screwed-and-glued carbon fiber frame with aluminum lugs.

    And if we can't find a Viscount/Lambert "death fork," maybe we could use George Hincapie's fork from Paris-Roubaix a year or two ago. I doubt if he needs it for anything . . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatfiend View Post
    Be sure to build it with chromed steel rims (no hook edge) and high pressure Kevlar bead tires.
    Oh, yes! Make sure the brake surface is smooooooooth (no "bumps) and then ride downhill in the rain.
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    I'd toss in a Huret Allvit RD. They might not break, but they could convince a person to kill themselves.
    How do you keep an idiot in suspense?

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    I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.



    Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."

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    Stronglight plastic headset.

    Any "suicide" FD from Huret, Simplex, Cyclo or Campagnolo.


    Edit: Rims could be Fiamme Ergals, Nisi Sludis or Gel 280s (at least for riders over 140 )

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    OK, the new build reads:
    Frame: Cannondale canitliver, Teledyne Titan, Kirk Precision, or Exxon Graftek
    Fork: Viscount Aerospace Pro
    Stem: 3TTT/Modolo Equipe/AVA
    Handlebar: AVA (alternates with proper clamp diameter needed for the 3TTT and Modolo setups)
    Seatpost: Campagnolo C-Record or Triomphe/Victory aero
    Saddle: Anything with a carbon frame.
    Crankset: Shimano MTB death cranks
    Derailers: Simplex Prestige
    Pedals: Aformentioned Cinellis
    Brake calipers: Campagnolo Delta
    Brake levers: Modolo plastic?
    Rims: Steel, single wall 700C, smooth-edge
    Hubs: Campagnolo C-Record Sheriff Star
    Tires: Anything made to be run at 100+ PSI

    -Kurt

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    Add the "safety" brake levers a.k.a. turkey wings. And if it's a fixie, no sprocket locknut, just Loctite (like some fixie fans apparently do).

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    Hubs: Campagnolo C-Record Sheriff Star

    -Kurt[/QUOTE]

    Laced 2 cross having been laced radial and 3x in the past, alternating leading an trailing spoke holes from past lacing patterns.
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    Just lace them radial and be done with it.

    Better yet, lace them radial into one of those crappy, 20-spoke, non-eyeletted Bontrager Race Lite rims. Can you say "snap, crackle, pop?"

    -Kurt

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    and no plugs on the end of the bars.

    and from the world of MTB, how about the old-style bridge on the straddle-cable of canti brakes so that if the straddle wire jumped out of the bridge, or if the anchor bolt slipped, the straddle wire falls down and catches on the knobby tires and stops the bike instantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    OK, the new build reads:
    Frame: Cannondale canitliver, Teledyne Titan, Kirk Precision, or Exxon Graftek
    Fork: Viscount Aerospace Pro
    Stem: 3TTT/Modolo Equipe/AVA
    Handlebar: AVA (alternates with proper clamp diameter needed for the 3TTT and Modolo setups)
    Seatpost: Campagnolo C-Record or Triomphe/Victory aero
    Saddle: Anything with a carbon frame.
    Crankset: Shimano MTB death cranks
    Derailers: Simplex Prestige
    Pedals: Aformentioned Cinellis
    Brake calipers: Campagnolo Delta
    Brake levers: Modolo plastic?
    Rims: Steel, single wall 700C, smooth-edge
    Hubs: Campagnolo C-Record Sheriff Star
    Tires: Anything made to be run at 100+ PSI

    -Kurt
    No...seatpost must be the Shiba Western plastic.

    As for calipers, a properly set up set of Deltas was adequate. There was no way to set up Universal AERs to stop. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    Just lace them radial and be done with it.

    Better yet, lace them radial into one of those crappy, 20-spoke, non-eyeletted Bontrager Race Lite rims. Can you say "snap, crackle, pop?"

    -Kurt
    I have one of those mechanical failures-waiting-to-happen. Off a Trek FX 7.5. I built new wheels - of course. Still can't figure out what to do with this monster. Get this: Spoke-tension between over 220 Kgf and 145 Kgf. Not snap, crackle, pop - more like Bang! Bang! Bang!
    How do you keep an idiot in suspense?

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