joe englert

hi guys. many of you were asking for some new detailed pics of my confente, well i just took a bunch but i dont know how to show em. if anyone can tell me how it would be appreciated. joe e

cudak888 

Open a photobucket account, upload the pics there, then link them here.

-Kurt

joe englert

garysol1 

Hang on Joe......Ill help you out. Sit tight

EDIT: Done

joe englert

thanks alot. joe

Pogliaghi

Just beautiful Joe! Wonderful bike.

cudak888 

Joe, is that right-hand SR lever scuffed a bit? I have an NOS one if you're interested.

-Kurt

joe englert

thanks alot. i love the bike. i heard he made some with internal brake cables and brazed on front der. hanger. this one is number 77 and i guess it was made in LA.

cudak888 

Now lets see the Paramount you speak of...



-Kurt

jan nikolajsen 

Joe, I bet this is your Paramaount, right?

cudak888 

Not bad. Campus green looks pretty decent on it.

That a 1965 upgraded to Campy brakes, or a stock '66? Looks as if it has incorrect 700C's on it.

-Kurt

joe englert

hay that looks just like mine! actually it is and i believe the pic is from kodakgallery. theres some other ones in there of my rossin super and a couple of others. that pic there is as good as the ones i took today so i guess theres no point in posting those. if and when i get the 71 masi(keep my fingers crossed ill post that too) thanks again ps if anybody out there comes out to sacramento area in cal. look me up and ill show those to you personally-not many classic bike loves around here-i feel lonely

cb400bill

Joe, your Adidas match your Paramount.

joe englert

thanks kurt. the wheels are original not 700s those came as you know im sure with the racing model. mine is the touring model so it has the big tires and heavy wheels-still a great riding bike-joe

joe englert

by the way, that is a 73 and the campy sidepulls were available as an extra on the touring model. the center pulls came standard. the bike has a brazed on part on the right side for the centerpulls so they put on the campy break cable clips when one ordered the special order campy side pulls.does that make sense?

joe englert

i am very color coordinated. i have a pair of adidas for each bike-sorry for the messy garage-i would have cleaned it up if i would have known that was going to be seen by 100 bike lovers

cudak888 

Has the brakeset been swapped from 999's then? It seems as if that front brake caliper is awfully low - even if it is a Paramount built and presently using 27" wheels.

That's a '73? Impossible, unless it has been repainted. The fellow who did the pinstriping either died or retired (don't recall which) sometime mid-1971, hence the reason why Paramounts made after that time period were not pinstriped.

Is that to say that yours has braze-on stops as well as the Campag clips? Unusual - I've seen clips without the braze-ons before - the braze-ons usually indicate that it was set up with Weinmann's initially. One can run the Campag brakes with that setup just as well, but the rear cable routing isn't the most beautiful in the world when used in conjunction with the braze-ons.

What is the serial on yours? It would make quick work of positively ID'ing the year.


P.S.: My beater '61 and my '70:









The '61 remains my all-time favorite machine over any and everything I've ridden (including the '70).

-Kurt

joe englert

beutiful bikes, well anyway im sure your right about the age of my bike, the guy at the shop told me 73 but what does he know. yes it has both braze on and clips serial number well its stamped nervex on bottom and then-580640d222e38 i hope that is useful in determing the date-I thought they did pinstriping until early 80s but you know best. thanks joe e

Scooper

Joe, the serial number on your Paramount will be stamped into the left rear dropout, not the bottom bracket shell. It should consist of a letter (A through M) followed by up to five numbers.

This is a December, 1972 serial number (1973 model year):

joe englert

thanks, the number reads k743 so what year would that be??

cb400bill

From Waterford:
This system was used from January 1966 through 1969. It consisted of three components -

* Month Code: This one letter code corresponds to the month with A=January, B=Febuary and so on. Because I is not used, September=J and December=M.
* Year Code: This one digit code is the last digit of the year - 6 is 1966.
* Sequence Number: This two digit number represents the nth frame and/or fork scheduled during the month.

For example, H763 is the sixty-third frame or fork scheduled during August of 1967.

So I would infer that K743 means the 43rd frame from November of 1967 and sold as a 1968 model year bike. Have I got that correct?

pastorbobnlnh 

Almost for the dating. K=October. I can't be certain about the model year, '67 or 68. It is in wonderful shape for the original paint. I had my '66 re-done.

pastorbobnlnh 

When speaking in Schwinn dates;

A=Jan, B=Feb, C=Mar, D=Apr, E=May, F=Jun, G=Jul, H=Aug, Skip I, J=Sep, K=Oct, L=Nov, M=Dec.

Scooper

October, 1967 for sure, and it was the 43rd Paramount frame that month.

Bob's right; it could be a '67 or '68 model year, since the model year typically changed in the September/October timeframe.

joe englert

thanks guys, i thought it was a 73 all this time-thats what the guy told me i bought it from but you guys know best-thats why i askbikeforums all the time. however there is one thing you guys are mistaken on. on my confente there is an original decal towards the bottom that says johns on it. someone at bike forums said that was the shop it came from however i talked to a real confente expert and he said that that was the guy who painted confentes early la bikes and that was his bike. boyer told me the same type of story which i had forgotten.