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    I'm hoping someone can help my failing memory. I want to replace the saddle on my 84 Colnago with an Avocet like I originally had on it. If memory serves, these came in Race, Touring and Womens models along with further models of 1 and 2. What were the differences? I think I had a Race1, and have been looking for one online.
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    I have a Touring I and a Touring II. There isn't much to tell them apart except the color and the II has a bit more padding. As I remember, the Race was narrow and had just a thin pad under the leather, the Touring was wider than the Race with about 1/2-3/4 inch of padding, and the Women's was like the Tour but shaped for a women's sit bones. All of them were made with thinner plastic in the pressure areas and anotomically molded pads.

    Last year I was in the LBS looking for a saddle for my Club Fuji. He pointed to the rack of new saddles and I mentioned that I wished I could find one like my Avocet. Then he showed me the clearance bin in a back room where there were 5-6 NOS Avocets for $5 each. I wasn't sure how the wife would react, so I showed restraint and only bought the brown Touring II.

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    I had a black Avocet touring II saddle and I loved it. I think the difference between the models(i.e. touring I, II) was the material used. I think the I was the cheaper model, used a heavier rail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pompiere View Post
    I have a Touring I and a Touring II. There isn't much to tell them apart except the color and the II has a bit more padding. As I remember, the Race was narrow and had just a thin pad under the leather, the Touring was wider than the Race with about 1/2-3/4 inch of padding, and the Women's was like the Tour but shaped for a women's sit bones. All of them were made with thinner plastic in the pressure areas and anotomically molded pads.

    Last year I was in the LBS looking for a saddle for my Club Fuji. He pointed to the rack of new saddles and I mentioned that I wished I could find one like my Avocet. Then he showed me the clearance bin in a back room where there were 5-6 NOS Avocets for $5 each. I wasn't sure how the wife would react, so I showed restraint and only bought the brown Touring II.
    React to spending $30? Dude!

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    I got an avocet touring for 1 dollar out of the dollar bin at the LBS. It's used and stuff, but it's on my winter beater and it's nice and big!

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    I always liked the Avocets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    React to spending $30? Dude!
    It would be the idea of 5 or 6 extra seats adding to the growing pile of bike parts. The money was not the issue, $30 on one seat would have been okay. I did buy some other stuff so the total bill was nearly $70.

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    I think the Avocet Race series was pretty much the same as a Turbo.

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    my wife has the same problem. She's more worried about the volume than the price. Although she does seem to catastrophize any purchase into the first of a never ending stream of further purchases. Then again, she might be on to something.

    I have a nice Avocet saddle from the '70s that I never wrecked bad enough to rip the leather. There is almost no padding though. I also have a '70s Cinelli that looks identical to it, or , I guess it's the other way around. I bought a Avocet with alloy rails which I managed to break, and I just wore out the saddle I replaced that with. It was an avocet gel with spandex covering. The spandex is what finally went. I'm getting a modern seat, going through test rides now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
    my wife has the same problem.
    My wife was showing off her new glasses last night. I countered with "it must be time for me to get another motorcycle" (cause she has more glasses than I have motorcycles).

    She got me with "yeah, but I don't need a separate building to keep my glasses in".

    She gave up on the bicycle stuff years ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy View Post
    I think the Avocet Race series was pretty much the same as a Turbo.
    I have a later version which is, but an earlier version that has a rounder non-turbo shape.

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    That was my first really high mileage seat. I outfitted my supercourse with one and rode it for two seasons.


    They don't crash very well, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pompiere View Post
    I have a Touring I and a Touring II. There isn't much to tell them apart except the color and the II has a bit more padding. As I remember, the Race was narrow and had just a thin pad under the leather, the Touring was wider than the Race with about 1/2-3/4 inch of padding, and the Women's was like the Tour but shaped for a women's sit bones. All of them were made with thinner plastic in the pressure areas and anotomically molded pads.

    Last year I was in the LBS looking for a saddle for my Club Fuji. He pointed to the rack of new saddles and I mentioned that I wished I could find one like my Avocet. Then he showed me the clearance bin in a back room where there were 5-6 NOS Avocets for $5 each. I wasn't sure how the wife would react, so I showed restraint and only bought the brown Touring II.
    If you want to slip on back to the bike shop to see if there are any left I will gladly supply you with all the necessary Forbidden to snap them up and ship em to me; I'm an Avocet lover from way back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 23skidoo View Post
    If you want to slip on back to the bike shop to see if there are any left I will gladly supply you with all the necessary Forbidden to snap them up and ship em to me; I'm an Avocet lover from way back.
    I'll take 2 also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy View Post
    I think the Avocet Race series was pretty much the same as a Turbo.

    Not sure about the Racing I, but I know for a fact that Racing II's were nothing more than rebadged Turbos. I think they were a bit narrower and lighter than Racing I's.

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    I have a Racing III and while it looks very similar to a Turbo, when I hold them side by side, I see that the Avocet rails are bent slightly differently.

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    I have a couple Touring I/II's last one I got as a freebie from the LBS. They work great on 80's machines.
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    The last two bikes on my list are a 50's Lenton Grand Prix and a '64 Raleigh Record.

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    Someone refresh my memory. Was the RIII the top of the line? I have an RII and an RIII, I think, in MI. Unfortunately, I'm in AZ, so I can't check (That's really not unfortunate, it was 80* in AZ today). I really like those saddles, but like my Regal's a bit more. I certainly would never let my Avocet Racing's go, though.

    I do recall that mine were labeled 'Made in Italy'.

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    Yes, made in Italy. I road a Race II. It held up well, but always broke my butt that initial ride of the season. Once I 'broke' in, it was fine. I always hated that. So much I replaced it, and lost my Avocet. Now I wish I still had it. My friend gave me his old RaceII when his road bikes were crushed in a construction mishap. It's scuffed up, but I plan to intall it back on my old bike for that period look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WNG View Post
    Yes, made in Italy. I road a Race II. It held up well, but always broke my butt that initial ride of the season. Once I 'broke' in, it was fine. I always hated that. So much I replaced it, and lost my Avocet. Now I wish I still had it. My friend gave me his old RaceII when his road bikes were crushed in a construction mishap. It's scuffed up, but I plan to intall it back on my old bike for that period look.
    I don't think you can 'break in' a plastic saddle. You can 'break in' your butt the first couple rides of the season, though.

    Now that you are in PHX, that shouldn't be a concern. Year round riding, if you can wake up early enuf in the Summer.

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    My Racing II had 'Selle Italia' molded right into the underside of its plastic base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slushlover2 View Post
    I'm hoping someone can help my failing memory. I want to replace the saddle on my 84 Colnago with an Avocet like I originally had on it. If memory serves, these came in Race, Touring and Womens models along with further models of 1 and 2. What were the differences? I think I had a Race1, and have been looking for one online.
    Avocet Touring came in men's and women's vesions, and "I" and "II" models. The women's saddles were a little shorter and wider. The model I had softer padding than model II.

    The Avocet Racing came in 3 versions. They were narrower than the Touring models, without the "anotomical" bumps featured on the touring models. Model I was the softest, model II was firmer, model III was identical to model II, but had alloy rails.

    According to my butt, the Racing models II and III are identical to the sought-after Selle Italia "Turbo" saddles (Selle Italia made Avocet's saddles).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
    Avocet Touring came in men's and women's vesions, and "I" and "II" models. The women's saddles were a little shorter and wider. The model I had softer padding than model II.

    The Avocet Racing came in 3 versions. They were narrower than the Touring models, without the "anotomical" bumps featured on the touring models. Model I was the softest, model II was firmer, model III was identical to model II, but had alloy rails.

    According to my butt, the Racing models II and III are identical to the sought-after Selle Italia "Turbo" saddles (Selle Italia made Avocet's saddles).
    That makes perfect sense. I have an R II and an R III, and a White Gel Turbo. Nice saddles, all.

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    we need pictures

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    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
    we need pictures
    I don't have my Avocets here in AZ, but here is a picture of the white turbo


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