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Old 03-02-09, 07:44 PM   #1
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Indian Bicycle question

I have an opportunity to buy a 195? Indian bicycle. I haven't received pictures yet, but I should have them later this week. My question is, how hard would restoring one of these be? I've never even heard of them, but after seeing a few pictures I really like them. It's supposed to be 100% original, but in need of complete restoration. Is attempting to restore this bike a lost cause, or a grand adventure? I have the spare time to devote, but I don't know if I should devote it to something else. Suggestions? Thank you.
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as long as its restorable do it, Indians are nice bikes, unless its shot.
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By the 1950s Indian was owned by Royal Enfield as I recall so the bike is probably a pretty standard English frame and components.
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I think there were some american made Indians before the war. Nice if you like coaster brakes and fat fenders. Easy to fix and get parts for. Fune to ride.
Then there were some Indians made in England. Standard English 3 speed stuff. cool headbadges. Easy to fix and easy to find parts for. Fun to ride.
What's he asking and is it pretty?
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By the 1950s Indian was owned by Royal Enfield as I recall so the bike is probably a pretty standard English frame and components.
No, I think Indian was always an American company; imported and rebadged Royal Enfield vertical twins as Indians, trying to hang on, not very successfully and went out of business 1953.

Not sure where bicycles fit in the story, but wouldn't be surprised if they were English too in the 50s.
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What size are the tires?
If it is from the 1950s the tires are probably 26 x 1 3/8, it was made in Birmingham, England, and has no where near the value of an American Indian cycle.
It would make a great commuter bike, but I wouldn't spend much on a restoration.
Also, there are plenty of parts around for that cycle (assuming it is a standard English 3-speed)
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Check prior BF C&V postings. One or two other members have had Indian bikes lately. Were part of Indian motorcycles. Had about an eight year run beginning in the late 1940s. Standard English 3-speed. If you need it as a guide for restoration, a picture of the Indian headbadge is included in one of the C&V postings, as well as a photo or two of an Indian bike in good condition.
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1951 Indian Scout - Help me revive it?
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He said it sat outside behind a barn for years before he got it. He's kept it inside ever since. From what I could gather, it's going to need new wheels from sitting in the dirt so long, and possibly a crank. He's wanting $75. When I get the pictures I'll know whether it's junk or not.

Also, I know a very good painter that will do a very good job for a very low price(for me). He normally does custom paint jobs on motorcycles, but he's done a few bicycles too.
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I would guess that restoration would not be financially worthwhile, if that's what you're asking. May be a better candidate to stick used wheels on and rattlecan it yourself or something.
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$75 sounds steep for an english 3 speed unless it's got good paint and chrome. American indian bikes might be worth more.
Try www.thecabe.com They know their american bikes and there have been a couple of indian 3speeds posted there recently.
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I'm hoping it's older. He said he doesn't know the exact year, so I may get lucky. He's got some other bikes for sale too, and their prices are very reasonable. If it's just the 3 speed I'll probably pass, but if it's American Indian I'll grab it. I know lots of car restoration people, so getting bikes repainted/rechromed is extremely easy and inexpensive. I don't even have to get decals as I know one guy that will airbrush logos on for me.
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Flamingo,

Where are you in KS? I just picked up a '51 Princess for $40. Original paint, but no decals. Missing the original chainguard.

Oxidized paint, cracked tires, and some surface rust on the chrome, but it seems otherwise mechanically sound and complete.
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