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Old 03-03-09, 07:57 PM   #1
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Ted williams 3 wheel trike

I have an old 3 wheeler and the only identification is an old old faded sticker saying sears, roebuck, and company ted williams quality. after searching and pouring over the crazy amount of information on this forum i found out more about the trike. it's a 3 speed. still, what i haven't found, is where i could possibly buy parts for it? i got this trike when i was around 13 and that'd been almost 13 years ago. it was used when i got it. i looked at buying a new trike but i'd rather fix this one back up. it's not in very good shape, but nothing i couldn't repair if i had the right stuff. So, my question is this. Where can I find parts for this trike? I tried searching but didn't find what i wanted. Hopefully some of you more experienced people can help.
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Ted Williams' endorsement deal with Sears ran from about 1960 to 1970, so I'd guess its from that time frame. Sears didn't make it, just bought it from a manufacturer and rebranded it. I have a 1965 catalog, but it doesn't show a 3-wheeler.

I know nothing about 3-wheelers but imagine most parts are typical bicycle parts. How are the 3-speeds made, in the hub, a freewheel, at the crank or a differential?
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I have no idea lol. I've only had 2 bikes in my life. my lil one that still has the training wheels on it from when we found out my balance is non-existant and this one. i rode it untill i got a car (about 2 yrs) and then i didn't ride it too much in such a small town. my expierence is not much for 2 wheeler or 3 wheelers. if i could find it i would link it, but i've had no such luck.
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What exactly is it you're needing? And from the "Ted Williams", I assume this is a standard adult tricycle?

A lot of the parts on it ought to be pretty generic- things like front wheel, tires, brake shoes, cables, handlebars, seatposts, seat, etc., you could probably go to any bike store and pick some up, or get online at www.niagaracycle.com if you know exactly what it is you need.

The wheel bearings are probably pretty standard, but you may have to take them out and run them down to the local bike shop to figure what it is you have.

The 3-speed hubs on some of these are an oddity- they're similar to a 3-speed bike hub, but have an extra sprocket. BUt I think they show up on Ebay on occasion.

Old Sears bikes get no respect in the used market. So fix it up, but don't expect to make your money back on it.
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im not fixing it up for resale. it's for personal use cause a new one would cost too much. i guess the parts im most worried about and/or don't understand is the gear shifting part. the handle, the part where the cable connects i suppose to what yoru calling the hub (this peice is rusted out). the hub it's self i guess is ok, ofc im still guessing as to what your calling a hub. it dosen't have the different sized gears like i've seen on mountain bikes. so yeah, im pretty confused. I just know i'd really like to get it working as a 3 speed again.
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Here is a Ted Williams Trike in a M.A.S.H (fixed gear freestyle) spoof. This one was a single speed version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3SOT8NCOEY
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Got pics? Some nice close ups of the parts you would like to replace. Also wipe the hub off and look for a name or # on it. I'm guessing it's a Shimano unit. There are shifter and cables on ebay often but you need to know what model yours is. I'm guessing its a 3sc (if it's got a coaster brake).
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ok i will take some pics in the morning and try to get em up tomorrow afternoon provided i don't work too late. dawn to dusk shifts really kill the time.
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I haven't dealt with the trikes, but understand there is some variation.

See this item for starters. This might or might not work on your trike, and yours may not be set up anything like this:
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...oducts_id=6005
This is a 3-speed hub similar to what's used in a rear wheel on a bike. However, it has a second sprocket on it so it can be used to turn the rear axle.

You may wind up having to cannibalize another trike to get parts for yours if it's too odd.
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Here is a Ted Williams Trike in a M.A.S.H (fixed gear freestyle) spoof. This one was a single speed version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3SOT8NCOEY
That's awesome! It's actually a really good spoof.....I love the squeaky slow roll at the end when the music stops...
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Thanks,
That thing did squeak! After that shoot we put that trike through the gauntlet. Flexy, flexy frame. I did however find a new owner after that.
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Given the age of it, it could be any of several manufacturers, with the nod going to Columbia. Pictures of the trike and what you need to replace will be a huge help.

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ok ima try this.


the lil shifter thingy that is rusted out


the hub


the shifter on the handlebars.

also all that is written on the hub is 3 speed hub pat.#3021728

I hope this is what yall need.
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From the pics I do believe your hub is a Shimano unit because of the bellcrank in the second pic.

Shifter:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Shimano-3-3-3-Th...3A1%7C294%3A50
Cable:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Shimano-Twist-gr...3A1%7C294%3A50
Bellcrank:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Shimano-Three-Sp...QQcmdZViewItem

If your hub is toast (which I doubt)you're gonna have a hard time finding a suitable replacement because yours has dual drive cogs. Your hub is actually just a regular hub that the manufacturer welded the drive cogs to so you may be able to do the same if you can find the right cogs or remove yours without ruining them.

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Thanks so much! I will order those parts when i get home. What tire size is this bike? Im guessing 26in.
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Mine used 24" tires. I think most trikes do.
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That hub is very likely fine. You may need to repack the bearings. Reoil it. I have never worked on a Shimano hub so I am no expert, but the Sturmey Archer hubs are nearly indestuctable, and I would imagine the Shimano is too.

The tricycle makers start with a standard bicycle hub and modify it to work by attaching an output sprocket on the near side of the hub. If it is boled on you can probably modify a hub to take the sprocket. If it is welded on you can probably have one welded on a new hub. But before doing anything like that consider just replacing the internals, that is fairly easy to do on a SA hub and probably on that Shimano hub too.
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most trikes now use 20 inch on front and most on rear unless they are racer or tourer oriented check out Utah trikes websight for a lot of good articles
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Bell crank and shifter makes me think Shimano. Make sure the hub is not a 3.3.3, they are not a real strong hub. Hopefully the hub works as is, repair/replacement parts for the Shimano IGH are all but non existent. I have seen another brand of hub made just like that, but cannot recall if it was SA or Sachs.

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I had one up to last year and do still have some photos available if anyone is interested.

It has a shimano 3 speed hub equipped with a coaster brake. It has that forementioned secondary cog welded to the hub housing.

The bike was constructed of what seemed to be a modified standard bike with a rear assembly that could be disassembled fairly quickly for moving or storage.

I had real concerns about the flimsiness of the front end of the bike especially the head tube, very dicey. I pointed it out to the buyer and he brushed it off telling me he was going to re-enforce the frame before he motorized it! I wished him good luck and haven't heard from him since. I imagine it languishing in a cluttered garage somewhere.
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yeah, from what i learnt from the patent number it's a shimano hub. as far as the bell housing... how exactly do i replace it? I did finally get one of the tires off and found it is a 24x1.75. wish i'da known that when i was buyin parts at the walmart. got a new set of 26's and tubes. oh well, i got the recipt.

EDIT: ok all 3 of the parts listed have been ordered/bid on. the darn cable dosen't have a buy it now. anyways, any advise on installing these parts? the cable is pretty self explanitory, and as near as i can tell without taking my current shifter apart, the twist grip will install/uninstall with 2 screws. the bell housing has me concerned though as i've not even looked too closely at it

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You can see some instructions for the bellcrank here. You can find more instructions with a google search for "shimano bellcrank adjustment" or "shimano bellcrank replacement".
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yeah, from what i learnt from the patent number it's a shimano hub. as far as the bell housing... how exactly do i replace it? I did finally get one of the tires off and found it is a 24x1.75. wish i'da known that when i was buyin parts at the walmart. got a new set of 26's and tubes. oh well, i got the recipt.

EDIT: ok all 3 of the parts listed have been ordered/bid on. the darn cable dosen't have a buy it now. anyways, any advise on installing these parts? the cable is pretty self explanitory, and as near as i can tell without taking my current shifter apart, the twist grip will install/uninstall with 2 screws. the bell housing has me concerned though as i've not even looked too closely at it
The bell crank is threaded on to the axle. You GENTLY remove it with a wrench of the correct size. When you take it off there should be a push rod inside the hollow axle. It may be gummed up, if that is the case GENTLY pull it out with a pair of vise grips, then you will need to clean it and the inside of the axle. I have used a Q-tip dipped in lacquer thinner before. You will also want to lay the hub on it's side and drip some oil down the inside of the axle after cleaning.

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Sounds like you are on your way to getting it back on the road, with good help from the people above.. If you have to buy any cables/housings, be sure to measure their length first.
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Yes Esteban. Now if my job would only cooperate and give me time to work on it. I won the bid on the cable for the shifter last night and the bellcrank is on it's way already shipped. i spent around $157 at wal-mart for new tires, tubes, seat, rust remover, pedals, brake pads, brake cable, ect. Hopefully I will find time this weekend to install atleast a little of it, but im not gonna get too into it untill the bellcrank, shifter, and cable come in. the temptation to ride it will be too much if i get the tires/tubes in too soon. On the other hand, my fiancee, who has some sort of older bike. I haven't gotten a look at it, decided to just spend $108 on a new mongoose mtn bike from wal-mart. it dose has a shimano gear setup which atleast now i have an idea what that means. I'll post some pictures when im done with it. Im debating on going back with the original colors.

Which reminds me, would anyone know where to find a rear fender for it? I removed them when i was younger cause mud kept hanging up inside of them. i found 1 but not the other.

Thanks for all the help thusfar, and with a bit more, this will be one antique being seen every weekend in the parks.
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