Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-18-09, 12:11 PM   #1
denalisexton
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What makes a bike C&V ? My ride is...

My ride is a 1989 Bianchi Advantage. Right now she's at the Bicycle Spa getting a makeover (fenders plus some bar ends, and some new greasy treatments), but essentially she's stock from day one.

So, what make a bike classic? vintage? I'm just curious...

... much obliged!

- D
denalisexton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-09, 12:49 PM   #2
USAZorro
Seņor Member
 
USAZorro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florence, KY
Bikes: 1954 Hetchins M.O., 1959 Viking Severn Valley, 1970 Raleigh Pro, 1972 Fuji "The Finest", 1974 Raleigh Superbe&Comp, 1976 Raleigh Team Pro, 1996 Giant Iguana, 2000 Bob Jackson Arrowhead
Posts: 14,576
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 73 Post(s)
There's not really a hard and fast rule. My general rule would be, if you show up on a group ride, and people comment that your bike is old...

Seriously though, I would consider your bike an appropriate subject for C&V.
__________________
In search of what to search for.
USAZorro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-09, 01:02 PM   #3
WNG
Spin Forest! Spin!
 
WNG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Arrid Zone-a
Bikes: I used to have many. And I Will again.
Posts: 5,967
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
For me, vintage means any bike that came with downtube shifters, a threaded headset. (I'm partial to road 'racers')
Classic means any bike I lusted for during that younger period of my life.
WNG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-09, 01:08 PM   #4
denalisexton
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
You guys are funny...

Well, according to Zorro, mine is C&V, then. When I took it to the bike spa yesterday, five dudes clustered around my old ladies style hybrid (would that make her a cougar? Hmmm...) oOOHing and Ahhing. "What year is this bike?" and all that.
denalisexton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-09, 01:34 PM   #5
robatsu
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kansai
Bikes:
Posts: 1,694
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Well, the first thing is that it has to have some features that were popular back in the day but generally unavailable on typical mass produced bikes of today. Some of this has been mentioned, but I'll add (these are just a basket of features)

freewheels, lugged frames, leather seats, non-aero brake levers, friction shifting, less plastic rather than more, 27" tires, Suntour components, French components, French threading, Swiss bottom brackets, cotton bar tape, toe clip strap buckle pads, chromed areas of the frame, bikes actually made in Japan, France, Switzerland, England, Netherlands,...almost anywhere except Taiwan or China, chrome brake housing clips, clamp on shifters, clamp on derailleur cable guides, no water bottle brazeons, no brazeons, long horizontal rear dropouts, long horizontal rear dropouts with adjuster screws, no lawyer lips on dropouts, fully crowned fork, non-recessed brake mounts, stay bridge for center pull brake cable stop, metal rivetted on head tube badge, lug lining, 144 BCD cranks, spring wire derailleur cable housing, loose bearings in hubs/bottom brackets/etc, 120/126mm rear dropout spacing, LBS sez your bike is obsolete, LBS tries to get your bike for lowball price figuring you might be an ignoramus, other guys on C&V bikes give you knowing glances, roadie guys on latest technology don't make eye contact.

Not an exhaustive list, and some non C&V bikes may have some of these features, but these are some indicators.
robatsu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-09, 04:07 PM   #6
Dyermaker
Fanatic
 
Dyermaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Sonoma Mountain
Bikes:
Posts: 346
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Bravo.
Dyermaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-09, 04:10 PM   #7
Doohickie 
You gonna eat that?
 
Doohickie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Fort Worth, Texas Church of Hopeful Uncertainty
Bikes: 1966 Raleigh DL-1 Tourist, 1973 Schwinn Varsity, 1983 Raleigh Marathon, 1994 Nishiki Sport XRS
Posts: 14,460
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 44 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by WNG View Post
For me, vintage means any bike that came with downtube shifters, a threaded headset. (I'm partial to road 'racers')
Classic means any bike I lusted for during that younger period of my life.
So... my stem shifters are too old?
__________________
I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.



Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
Doohickie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-09, 04:53 PM   #8
WNG
Spin Forest! Spin!
 
WNG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Arrid Zone-a
Bikes: I used to have many. And I Will again.
Posts: 5,967
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Hah! Not at all. Just wasn't my personal preference back in the day. I like downtube braze ons for their versatility. With them you can mount bar cons, brifters, stem, or downtube shifters.
I've come to appreciate stem shifters more now. I just picked up a NOS Suntour 6 spd indexed stem shifter. The levers are simply bar-con levers. Hoping to see if a set of Ultegra 8 spd SIS bar cons will mount on there.
WNG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-09, 05:21 PM   #9
riva
ridin dirty midrange
 
riva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Bikes: 80's goodness
Posts: 583
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by robatsu View Post
...LBS tries to get your bike for lowball price figuring you might be an ignoramus, other guys on C&V bikes give you knowing glances, roadie guys on latest technology don't make eye contact...
I'll look out for this. Thank you for the heads up.
riva is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-09, 05:31 PM   #10
mkeller234
Rustbelt Rider
 
mkeller234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Canton, OH
Bikes: 1990 Trek 1420 - 1978 Raleigh Professional - 1973 Schwinn Collegiate - 1974 Schwinn Suburban
Posts: 8,304
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by WNG View Post
For me, vintage means any bike that came with downtube shifters, a threaded headset. (I'm partial to road 'racers')
Classic means any bike I lusted for during that younger period of my life.
Yeah +1. My house is 80 years old so it's vintage, the white house is classic. I guess vintage is a nice way of saying old?
__________________
|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| ||
|......GO.BROWNS........| ||'|";, ___.
|_..._..._______===|=||_|__|..., ] -
"(@)'(@)"""''"**|(@)(@)*****''(@)
mkeller234 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-09, 08:13 PM   #11
RobbieTunes 
Idiot Pro Tempo
 
RobbieTunes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: NC
Bikes: at Pedal Room
Posts: 20,858
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 249 Post(s)
Another "C&V" bike goes by, he looks over,..knowing grins are exchanged, no words.

The young guy on the carbon Specialized thinks it's cool, says he didn't know they made bikes in Japan.

You outrun a 30-year old on his P3 with your Ironman and he wants to know how something that heavy can roll so well. (ball bearings)

Someone asks "is that chrome?"
__________________

Robbie ♪♫♪...☻

Use both sides of the towel.

1985 Raleigh Racing USA - Competition (honoring cehowardGS)
1988 Centurion Dave Scott Ironman Master
1989 Centurion Dave Scott Ironman Expert
1989 Centurion Carbon R

http://www.pedalroom.com/members/RobbieTunes
RobbieTunes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-09, 07:00 AM   #12
ozneddy
Senior Member
 
ozneddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Bikes: Casati, ,Peugot,Mitchell,Raliegh,Nishiki
Posts: 1,485
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Its when (those are the bikes I play with) your 20 year old sons buddy says "Wots ur ole man doin ?" and the boy says --"Dont mind him,he,s old" !
ozneddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:35 PM.