Help me ID a Peugeot MTB
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Help me ID a Peugeot MTB
I have Peugeot MTB that I got at an auction almost 20 years ago for $12 and I never really tried to find out any info on it and now after finding this site and sparking a interest to redo it would like to know more about it,model ,year and stuff like that.I have a bunch of photos and the list of parts that were on it.I want to thank anybody that can help me in advance.
FRAME-21" made in Japan Tange CR-MO seamless tubing P.G tubes SER# ARYG555447
FORK-Tange Mangaloy 2001 Manganese alloy tubing
Headset-Tange
Stem-Sakae Mts-120
BB-Tange sealed
FD-Shimano Via Japan model ?
RD-Shimano Mountain LX RD-M452
Chain-Shimano Dura Ace UG
Wheels-Araya 26x150 Japan
Hubs-Suzue Sealed Tech
Freewheel-Shimano MF-Z012 5speed 14/28 Via Japan
Crankset- Tourney GS Takagi 170mm with Takagi 50/40/30 rings
Brakes- Canti's Shimano M55/T
Shifters- Shimano Thumb EM SL-MT50, RT friction LF rachets
FRAME-21" made in Japan Tange CR-MO seamless tubing P.G tubes SER# ARYG555447
FORK-Tange Mangaloy 2001 Manganese alloy tubing
Headset-Tange
Stem-Sakae Mts-120
BB-Tange sealed
FD-Shimano Via Japan model ?
RD-Shimano Mountain LX RD-M452
Chain-Shimano Dura Ace UG
Wheels-Araya 26x150 Japan
Hubs-Suzue Sealed Tech
Freewheel-Shimano MF-Z012 5speed 14/28 Via Japan
Crankset- Tourney GS Takagi 170mm with Takagi 50/40/30 rings
Brakes- Canti's Shimano M55/T
Shifters- Shimano Thumb EM SL-MT50, RT friction LF rachets
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Thank you after taking that info and searching I would have agree,although some of the spec's don't jive it is the best match that I could find and it helped me date a Pipeline that my brother found also a 86, the funny thing about the name is I told my brother I am going to make this my Urban Assault bike to beat around our local streets on as I have for the last 20 years.I had it set up with a 7 speed rear (orig a 5 speed freewheel) cassette but am going to switch to a 6 speed freewheel on the orig wheel/hub but I would like to change the thumb shifters out( I had rapid fire shifters with the cassette) but am having a hard time finding a better shifter that will work with the 6 speed freewheel,anybody know if they ever made a rapidfire style shifter that would work or have an idea on what I could use as I really can't stand the stock thumb shifters.
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Don't forget the rare and precious Peugeot Fun Star. Peugeot seemed to have trouble gaging the tough-guy tone of the MTB world.
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I knew when I saw this bike it rang a bell. To me it looks just like this one, on toronto craigslist right now, a Peugeot "Attitude". https://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/1175870023.html
Cool looking frame, not the greatest name. Maybe that's why they took it off!
Cool looking frame, not the greatest name. Maybe that's why they took it off!
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The Urban Express is not a mountain bike. I guess you'd call it a hybrid.
My Orient Express originally had a freewheel, then I built it as a 7 speed cassette with a spacer. My wife stopped riding it when I built her a Fuji mixte and it got stripped and forgotten for a couple of years. I found some shifters and a cassette, so I'm rebuilding it as a 9 speed. I'm going to give it away when it's finished, but first I want to replace the Sugino XD with something less desireable. The Brooks is on my Carlton. I may put the basket on my new townie.
My Orient Express originally had a freewheel, then I built it as a 7 speed cassette with a spacer. My wife stopped riding it when I built her a Fuji mixte and it got stripped and forgotten for a couple of years. I found some shifters and a cassette, so I'm rebuilding it as a 9 speed. I'm going to give it away when it's finished, but first I want to replace the Sugino XD with something less desireable. The Brooks is on my Carlton. I may put the basket on my new townie.
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It is a Urban Express,now that I know where the top tube decal went Looking at an angle you can see the outline where they peeled the decal off and it is clearly a U and then you can tell where the large E was also,thanks again.
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Specs
I have an old Peugeot mountain bike to. Can't figure out what the original equipment would have been. It has almost the same specs as listed here. Except I have a Sugino AT right crank and a Tourney XT left crank. Dont know which brand was the original. I to have no name on the bike. It was supposed to have originally been bought in France and has an old sticker on it with a French store name and phone number. The bikes sold in France might not have had names. If it did, someone did a thorough job of removing it. Seems to be exactly the same bike as a Canyon Express or an Urban Express. Anyone have any idea weither it would have Sugino or Takagi cranks?
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What's the serial number. That should allow us to determine the model year, then you can refer to the appropriate French catalogue to determine the model and OEM specs.
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The serial number is: ARYG329202 Ill try to post pics as soon as I can figure it out.(newbie here) For now it's a dark green one. I already changed the Sugino crank to a Takagi and then thought "how do you know it was Takagi. People change parts all the time. Can't be sure by what's on somebody elses bike now. This bike was one of those sad stories of an internet purchase gone wrong. Was supposed to have sat in a garage for 20 years and had barely been ridden. Paid alot of money for it thinking I was getting a practically brand new vintage bike. Got it and about every bearing in it was bad, parts missing or changed, etc... I have it road worthy again but still want to get the original parts on it. I might have to be a little less crazy about the factory original stuff.
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Hmmm...upload image and it dissappears. Might not be aload to do that yet cause I'm a newb. Or maybe to big. Get one on here when I can. Got to scram right now and tomorrow me and my vintage Peugeot Marseille are going touring for charity. At least I know that's mostly original. Except I took off some reflectors after I bought it 30 years ago and now i cant find them. D'OH!
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The serial number is: ARYG329202 Ill try to post pics as soon as I can figure it out.(newbie here) For now it's a dark green one. I already changed the Sugino crank to a Takagi and then thought "how do you know it was Takagi. People change parts all the time. Can't be sure by what's on somebody elses bike now. This bike was one of those sad stories of an internet purchase gone wrong. Was supposed to have sat in a garage for 20 years and had barely been ridden. Paid alot of money for it thinking I was getting a practically brand new vintage bike. Got it and about every bearing in it was bad, parts missing or changed, etc... I have it road worthy again but still want to get the original parts on it. I might have to be a little less crazy about the factory original stuff.
Then open your thread and at the bottom of the text window click on 'Go Advance" top of the new window click on the little paperclip.
Most any local bike shop should have a huge box of reflectors if you really need them.
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OK, here's my baby. Thanks Bianchi. I tried one shop but it only had a box of junk reflectors. Nothing even near what I need. Problem is I live in BFE. No bike shops here. Have 2 other shops to check but long ways to go to get there. I don't have to have the reflectors for practical reasons. I need them to restore this bike to factory specs.
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Groffer, the frame was manufactured by Araya of Japan in July 1983. That's late enough that it could be a 1984 model. There are no ATBs in either 1983 or 1984 French catalogues. ATBs first appear in the 1984 USA catalog, but none are green. The subject bicycle also has what appears to be a Shimano derailleur, while the 1984 catalogue specs for all three USA models show SunTour. That may indicate a Canyon Express as these were spec'd with the infamous MounTech derailleurs that a had a high failure rate. It also appears to have the SR MTE post with extreme set-back, that was spec'd only on the Canynon Express. Finally, the original spec crankset for the Canyon Express was a Sugino TAT, while the other two models spec'd SR and the bicycle did have one Sugino crankarm. Despite the colour deviation, the indicators seem to be pointing towards a 1984 Canyon Express.
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Thanks for the info! I thought somebody change the crank set. So it is right to have a Sugino AT on the right and a Tourney XT on the left? Seems to me I read somewhere that Shimano owned some of the companies like Sugino and Takagi. Is Araya the same company as Tange? The frame has to stickers on it that both say it is a Tange frame unless they mean that that is the company that manufactured the tubing. Other specs include:
Shimano front and rear derailleurs
Shimano VIA HG hubs front and rear
Tange BB
SR pedals
Shimano EM shifters
Dia Compe brake levers
Shimano freewheel
Shimano cables
Tange Falcon handlebars?
Kashimax seat
I saw a canyon Express with a Kashimax seat. But the specs the original poster on this thread has alot of the same specs for an urban express. That is what is confusing. It seems to me that Peugeot had alot of names for what was basically the same bike and that the specs are all over the place. Seems like brands for parts must have varied alot.
What do you think?
Anywho, I do like the name Canyon Express better than some of the other names..lol Sounds more MTBish. In those french catalogues, when they did start listing MTBs, did they have names (canyon Express, Urban Express, Oriental Express, etc..)?
Shimano front and rear derailleurs
Shimano VIA HG hubs front and rear
Tange BB
SR pedals
Shimano EM shifters
Dia Compe brake levers
Shimano freewheel
Shimano cables
Tange Falcon handlebars?
Kashimax seat
I saw a canyon Express with a Kashimax seat. But the specs the original poster on this thread has alot of the same specs for an urban express. That is what is confusing. It seems to me that Peugeot had alot of names for what was basically the same bike and that the specs are all over the place. Seems like brands for parts must have varied alot.
What do you think?
Anywho, I do like the name Canyon Express better than some of the other names..lol Sounds more MTBish. In those french catalogues, when they did start listing MTBs, did they have names (canyon Express, Urban Express, Oriental Express, etc..)?
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The bicycle would have originally had a Sugino TAT crankranset but the both arms would be labelled Sugino AT, as the TAT designation just indicates the triple chainring version. The Tourney XT is almost certainly a replacement installed by the previous owner.
The frameset was manufactured by Araya using Tange tubing. They are not the same company.
It's common practice to use some of the same components on multiple bicycle models. Typically, this is done on minor components, such as rims, tyres, saddles, headsets, pedals, etc. Differences are usually in major components, such as derailleurs, brakes and cranksets. Spreading the same component across multiple models allows the manufacturer to buy larger quantities, decreasing unit cost and logistical problems, It is the most cost effective way to create multiple models. It can even extend to using the same frame for multiple models.
The frameset was manufactured by Araya using Tange tubing. They are not the same company.
It's common practice to use some of the same components on multiple bicycle models. Typically, this is done on minor components, such as rims, tyres, saddles, headsets, pedals, etc. Differences are usually in major components, such as derailleurs, brakes and cranksets. Spreading the same component across multiple models allows the manufacturer to buy larger quantities, decreasing unit cost and logistical problems, It is the most cost effective way to create multiple models. It can even extend to using the same frame for multiple models.
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