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Old 06-18-09, 07:21 PM   #1
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What can you tell me about this Fiorelli? Did I pay too much?

The bike is near mint.Fiorelli Milano San Remo. Vintage is early 80s components are:

54 cm frame height (center of bb to center of top tube)
56 cm top tube length (center of head tube to center of seat tube)
Columbus Aelle R chomoly tubing
Fully brazed frame with cutout lugs
Stem: Shimano Dura Ace
Bars: 3TTT Superleggero
Brake Levers: Shimano Dura Ace
Brakes: Dura Ace Cantilevers w/ original Dura Ace Pads (I have an extra set of pads I will include)
Fork: Campagnolo chrome (chromoly) with Campy dropouts
Rims: Mavic CXP22 Aero 32h 770c
Hubs: Shimano HB2200
Spokes: DT Swiss stainless
Tires: Specialized Sport 700c presta
Crankset: Dura Ace AX 42/52 170mm arms
Bottom Bracket: Campagnolo 36 x 24 with alloy cups
Seatpost: Campagnolo aero
Seat: Concor Supercorsa
Front Derailleur: Shimano Dura Ace
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Dura Ace 7 speed
Shifters: Shimano Dura Ace (on downtube)
Rear Cluster: Shimano Hyperglide 13-23 7 speed
Headset: Shimano Dura Ace

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I paid $350 for it and picked it up locally. I was looking for a nice, vintage commuter. Seemed like a really nice bike. What do you guys think?
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I think there is a valuation section to this forum where you should have posted this.

I also think that's a pretty good price for that bike. I would pay that much since it's my size.
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You got a bad deal. However, I will do you a favor and take it off your hands for $1000 (so I can still flip it for a profit.)
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You got a bad deal. However, I will do you a favor and take it off your hands for $1000 (so I can still flip it for a profit.)
You'd give me $1000 for it??
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Have you tried installing pedals yet?
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No why? lol
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looks like the crank has pedal adapters in it. I really liked the pedals with the bearings in the cranks, but that wasn't enough to get me to switch from campy to Shimano.
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DuraAce AX (and the 600AX) never had pedal bearings "in the crank", the original pedals just had massive 1" diameter single inboard pedal bearings *in the pedals*. Though they were big, they were delicate and don't have a reputation for longevity (others will disagree). You don't have to worry since your cranks have the adapters that permit you to mount conventional pedals: whatever brand you like.
Aelle R frames are not seen very often, looks like a great deal, congrats.
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You scored big time bro.
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So what do you guys think this things worth?
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So what do you guys think this things worth?
150 euros
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Ya it looks like a good deal but I think it would look sicker if it were fixed and had some riser bars or something
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So what do you guys think this things worth?
At the risk of getting this thread kicked to curb....full Dura Ace 7400+ bikes start in the mid $400's. I'd say somewhere in that range.
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I saw the same saddle, used, on ebay sell for $70. Seatpost around $65. Dura Ace stem around $45. I'm thinking I could make a nice profit if I parted it out.
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I saw the same saddle, used, on ebay sell for $70. Seatpost around $65. Dura Ace stem around $45. I'm thinking I could make a nice profit if I parted it out.
It would be a shame to see it parted out and potentially turned into a fixie / ss. Ride and enjoy it for what it is.
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That saddle and seatpost alone would bring $200 on Ebay. So considering you got a lugged Italian Columbus steel frame with all the other parts for $150 more I'd say it was a good deal.
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What a great find. I hope you were kidding about converting it because this is a beautiful bike. The money you would get from parting it out wouldn't get you a bike this nice.
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What a great find. I hope you were kidding about converting it because this is a beautiful bike. The money you would get from parting it out wouldn't get you a bike this nice.
Yeah I was kidding about converting it. The purists probably think it's an abomination to have dura ace and campy components working together on an italian bike, but it rides so nice I really don't want to change anything.

thanks for the compliments.
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DuraAce AX (and the 600AX) never had pedal bearings "in the crank", the original pedals just had massive 1" diameter single inboard pedal bearings *in the pedals*. Though they were big, they were delicate and don't have a reputation for longevity (others will disagree). You don't have to worry since your cranks have the adapters that permit you to mount conventional pedals: whatever brand you like.
Aelle R frames are not seen very often, looks like a great deal, congrats.
A lot of really good attributes in the paint, lugwork, and components. Aelle is one of Columbus' lower end tubesets, so it's a but heavier and stiffer than SLX or TSX; but this is good for a commuter. I don't really see where it's a "spend $1000 and make a profit" frame, when some really high pedigree bikes are as low as they are now, but I'm not a pro flipper.

But, to get that bike for the price of a really good UO-8 or most UJMs in excellent condition? I think that's a great deal, you done good!
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A lot of really good attributes in the paint, lugwork, and components. Aelle is one of Columbus' lower end tubesets, so it's a but heavier and stiffer than SLX or TSX; but this is good for a commuter. I don't really see where it's a "spend $1000 and make a profit" frame, when some really high pedigree bikes are as low as they are now, but I'm not a pro flipper.

But, to get that bike for the price of a really good UO-8 or most UJMs in excellent condition? I think that's a great deal, you done good!
Thanks. It's actually Aelle R which is quite a bit lighter than normal Aelle. It's pretty much Columbus's version of Reynolds 531.

Yeah I don't think it's a $1000 make a profit bike either. I think if I parted it out I could probably clear $800-$900. Or I could probably get around $650-$700 if I sold it as a complete. That might be stretching it a bit too.
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New to forum, just built ghetto bianchi grizzly SS

Should I convert this or leave as is?
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Yeah but you need to differentiate when I'm trolling and when I'm posting for real. You sir, fail.
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Yeah but you need to differentiate when I'm trolling and when I'm posting for real. You sir, fail.
Once you troll it doesn't matter. I just ignore you what you type.
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