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    What can you tell me about this Fiorelli? Did I pay too much?

    The bike is near mint.Fiorelli Milano San Remo. Vintage is early 80s components are:

    54 cm frame height (center of bb to center of top tube)
    56 cm top tube length (center of head tube to center of seat tube)
    Columbus Aelle R chomoly tubing
    Fully brazed frame with cutout lugs
    Stem: Shimano Dura Ace
    Bars: 3TTT Superleggero
    Brake Levers: Shimano Dura Ace
    Brakes: Dura Ace Cantilevers w/ original Dura Ace Pads (I have an extra set of pads I will include)
    Fork: Campagnolo chrome (chromoly) with Campy dropouts
    Rims: Mavic CXP22 Aero 32h 770c
    Hubs: Shimano HB2200
    Spokes: DT Swiss stainless
    Tires: Specialized Sport 700c presta
    Crankset: Dura Ace AX 42/52 170mm arms
    Bottom Bracket: Campagnolo 36 x 24 with alloy cups
    Seatpost: Campagnolo aero
    Seat: Concor Supercorsa
    Front Derailleur: Shimano Dura Ace
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano Dura Ace 7 speed
    Shifters: Shimano Dura Ace (on downtube)
    Rear Cluster: Shimano Hyperglide 13-23 7 speed
    Headset: Shimano Dura Ace

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    I paid $350 for it and picked it up locally. I was looking for a nice, vintage commuter. Seemed like a really nice bike. What do you guys think?

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    I think there is a valuation section to this forum where you should have posted this.

    I also think that's a pretty good price for that bike. I would pay that much since it's my size.

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    You got a bad deal. However, I will do you a favor and take it off your hands for $1000 (so I can still flip it for a profit.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosso Corsa View Post
    You got a bad deal. However, I will do you a favor and take it off your hands for $1000 (so I can still flip it for a profit.)
    You'd give me $1000 for it??

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    Have you tried installing pedals yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis View Post
    Have you tried installing pedals yet?
    No why? lol

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    looks like the crank has pedal adapters in it. I really liked the pedals with the bearings in the cranks, but that wasn't enough to get me to switch from campy to Shimano.

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    DuraAce AX (and the 600AX) never had pedal bearings "in the crank", the original pedals just had massive 1" diameter single inboard pedal bearings *in the pedals*. Though they were big, they were delicate and don't have a reputation for longevity (others will disagree). You don't have to worry since your cranks have the adapters that permit you to mount conventional pedals: whatever brand you like.
    Aelle R frames are not seen very often, looks like a great deal, congrats.

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    You scored big time bro.

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    So what do you guys think this things worth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by godugr8 View Post
    So what do you guys think this things worth?
    150 euros

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    Ya it looks like a good deal but I think it would look sicker if it were fixed and had some riser bars or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by godugr8 View Post
    So what do you guys think this things worth?
    At the risk of getting this thread kicked to curb....full Dura Ace 7400+ bikes start in the mid $400's. I'd say somewhere in that range.
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    I saw the same saddle, used, on ebay sell for $70. Seatpost around $65. Dura Ace stem around $45. I'm thinking I could make a nice profit if I parted it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godugr8 View Post
    I saw the same saddle, used, on ebay sell for $70. Seatpost around $65. Dura Ace stem around $45. I'm thinking I could make a nice profit if I parted it out.
    It would be a shame to see it parted out and potentially turned into a fixie / ss. Ride and enjoy it for what it is.
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    That saddle and seatpost alone would bring $200 on Ebay. So considering you got a lugged Italian Columbus steel frame with all the other parts for $150 more I'd say it was a good deal.

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    What a great find. I hope you were kidding about converting it because this is a beautiful bike. The money you would get from parting it out wouldn't get you a bike this nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsieuroctagon View Post
    What a great find. I hope you were kidding about converting it because this is a beautiful bike. The money you would get from parting it out wouldn't get you a bike this nice.
    Yeah I was kidding about converting it. The purists probably think it's an abomination to have dura ace and campy components working together on an italian bike, but it rides so nice I really don't want to change anything.

    thanks for the compliments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unworthy1 View Post
    DuraAce AX (and the 600AX) never had pedal bearings "in the crank", the original pedals just had massive 1" diameter single inboard pedal bearings *in the pedals*. Though they were big, they were delicate and don't have a reputation for longevity (others will disagree). You don't have to worry since your cranks have the adapters that permit you to mount conventional pedals: whatever brand you like.
    Aelle R frames are not seen very often, looks like a great deal, congrats.
    A lot of really good attributes in the paint, lugwork, and components. Aelle is one of Columbus' lower end tubesets, so it's a but heavier and stiffer than SLX or TSX; but this is good for a commuter. I don't really see where it's a "spend $1000 and make a profit" frame, when some really high pedigree bikes are as low as they are now, but I'm not a pro flipper.

    But, to get that bike for the price of a really good UO-8 or most UJMs in excellent condition? I think that's a great deal, you done good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road Fan View Post
    A lot of really good attributes in the paint, lugwork, and components. Aelle is one of Columbus' lower end tubesets, so it's a but heavier and stiffer than SLX or TSX; but this is good for a commuter. I don't really see where it's a "spend $1000 and make a profit" frame, when some really high pedigree bikes are as low as they are now, but I'm not a pro flipper.

    But, to get that bike for the price of a really good UO-8 or most UJMs in excellent condition? I think that's a great deal, you done good!
    Thanks. It's actually Aelle R which is quite a bit lighter than normal Aelle. It's pretty much Columbus's version of Reynolds 531.

    Yeah I don't think it's a $1000 make a profit bike either. I think if I parted it out I could probably clear $800-$900. Or I could probably get around $650-$700 if I sold it as a complete. That might be stretching it a bit too.

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    Yeah but you need to differentiate when I'm trolling and when I'm posting for real. You sir, fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godugr8 View Post
    Yeah but you need to differentiate when I'm trolling and when I'm posting for real. You sir, fail.
    Once you troll it doesn't matter. I just ignore you what you type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmh657 View Post
    Once you troll it doesn't matter. I just ignore you what you type.
    How does a person ignore and respond to someone at the same time?

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