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Old 06-20-09, 12:03 PM   #1
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Super Course horror...(not for the faint of heart)

I'm normally a fluffer, buffer maybe flipper kind of guy but when I saw this poor thing at a garage sale I just couldn't leave it. It cost less than the eggmcmuffin I ate on the way to finding it. (2 bucks ) It's a total redo for which I'm wholly unqualified but reading some of your restoration stories has given me inspiration!! I'm going to strip this beast down, spend a fortune, and hopefully put it back together. Here's one that might have a tidbit or two for your database, kurt...may not. Who knows. Wish me luck...

Oh yeah the facts as I know them:
Shimano Crane GS rd
Huret fd
Huret shifters
Weinmann 750 Vainqueur 999 brakes
Lyotard BTE s G D G pedals 136 R&L
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Old 06-20-09, 12:05 PM   #2
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i would probably leave the paint but just clean it up nicely hehe
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Old 06-20-09, 12:09 PM   #3
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I was gonna say.. that doesn't look too bad. Then I saw the closeups. Whoa.

I might try to save the original paint too. I would clean it up as best as possible, then maybe put a clearcoat over it.
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Old 06-20-09, 12:22 PM   #4
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I dunno, guys...this thing looks aweful. Can I not go back with the original color or is it lost to the history books? Finding script decals might be a challenge as well...hmmm...I can't decide.
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Try an oxalic acid soak to remove the rust, then a little rubbing compound to remove the oxidized surface of the paint, and then seal it up right away with wax. You may be pleasantly surprised.
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Try an oxalic acid soak to remove the rust, then a little rubbing compound to remove the oxidized surface of the paint, and then seal it up right away with wax. You may be pleasantly surprised.
I'll give it a shot...It certainly has nothing to lose as it is. Thanks.
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That bike is worth every penny your gonna spend on it.
Mine is almost identical to that, except that I've had a year or two to monkey with it.
The paint is a georgous color but when it's gone, it's gone. It's not like your usual black Raleigh that buffs right out. It's a transperant kind of thing that fades and degrades all the way through.
It's a tough color to find, maybe it was clear grean sprayed over gold?
I've learned to love the odd metalflake camoflage that mine has matured to but I'll probably paint it one of these days.
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Here it is;

At last count there were parts from at least 13 bikes and I've spent almost $30 on the project, till day before yesterday when I went out and blew $40 on a pretty Brooks saddle. It broke on the first ride.

I put more miles on tis bike, though than all my other bikes put together.
Can you see you the two sides have faded differently from leaning up against a wall for a while?


It's beautiful in it's own way. I do wish the chrome were shinier.
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BTW, You can get decal sets for these. I forget the place, it's on line though.
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Can you see you the two sides have faded differently from leaning up against a wall for a while?

I can...and mine is exactly the same. One side looks green and the other is a little more goldish.
I'll look for the decals...thanks. If the original color can't be had then perhaps a nice burgandy?
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After lunch I'll take some "inspiration" pics of one I've been working on ...
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Here's mine, set up as a club-style bike with Sturmey Archer AM 3-speed rear hub. The paint on these frames does polish up remarkably well.



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After lunch I'll take some "inspiration" pics of one I've been working on ...
Please do...I'm needing it!! What have I stepped into? I've been letting the chain and cassette soak in liqued wrench since I took these shots, so I just flipped it over and gave it a whirl. To quote Dr. Frankenstien "IT'S ALLLIIIIIVE!!!" It shifted into everything except 1st gear...Amazing.
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Here's mine, set up as a club-style bike with Sturmey Archer AM 3-speed rear hub. The paint on these frames does polish up remarkably well.



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That looks awesome ...Mine will never look that good without a new paint job.
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OK, heres the link ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/owhn/se...7619926080933/

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/owhn/se...7619926080933/

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Dr Deltron, because you are okay in my book, here ya go:

BTW, not too shabby!






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I've always thought the green Super Course one of the most beautiful bikes sold. I had serious SC lust in the day. If you can conserve the original paint, you'll like it.
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Yeah, baby...that's what I'm screamin'!! That looks fantastic. I'm going to start ripping this thing to pieces right now!!! Great job, Doc.
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Could be a great bike to use for transportation and recreation...what it is meant for anyway. Clean everything up (Oxylic acid or whatever), put the chain in a plastic bag and soak it in motor oil, lube everything, probably will need new brake pads & cable housing & bar tape (or those "Nerf" bar covers) and definitely tires (Niagara, Nashbar, etc. have them reasonably priced from about $5 & up). The Carlton brake hood covers might clean up with Simple Green or Comet. Hopefully no hops in the rims...just simple alignment? Cottered cranks OK? You could add a Pleitscher rear carrier (off another bike..."free") , SKS fenders ($20 -$30), and a handlebar bag (Nashbar sometimes has them for $8), if you want to give it a touring look. You could also try putting down a coat of matching auto touch-up paint...GM?... (buy the big can) on the paint...followed by the best clear coat you can buy. If the bike is your size, it is nice to have something short of "perfect" to ride around when it rains, or when you are going to bang it around a bit. Good Luck....nice catch....could sell that all day for $50 as is.
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Those grips are super cool, if you don't want 'em and they come off without destruction... let me know.
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Could be a great bike to use for transportation and recreation...what it is meant for anyway. Clean everything up (Oxylic acid or whatever), put the chain in a plastic bag and soak it in motor oil, lube everything, probably will need new brake pads & cable housing & bar tape (or those "Nerf" bar covers) and definitely tires (Niagara, Nashbar, etc. have them reasonably priced from about $5 & up). The Carlton brake hood covers might clean up with Simple Green or Comet. Hopefully no hops in the rims...just simple alignment? Cottered cranks OK? You could add a Pleitscher rear carrier (off another bike..."free") , SKS fenders ($20 -$30), and a handlebar bag (Nashbar sometimes has them for $8), if you want to give it a touring look. You could also try putting down a coat of matching auto touch-up paint...GM?... (buy the big can) on the paint...followed by the best clear coat you can buy. If the bike is your size, it is nice to have something short of "perfect" to ride around when it rains, or when you are going to bang it around a bit. Good Luck....nice catch....could sell that all day for $50 as is.
Yeah, the chain is still a little squeaky but getting better. The rimset is mis-matched. The front has a wimpy little thing with one of those uspeakable presta valves. (shutters) I ripped that pos off first thing and stuck the front rim and tire from a Peugeot P8 I've been cleaning up on it. I took it for a spin around the neighborhood as the back tire still holds air...just to get a feel. The fit is good and I like the ride so I'm probably going to go all out on this one. Is the frame Reynolds? There's a crappy Jackson bike registration sticker from the seventies that's permenantly welded on where the Reynolds sticker would be, so I'm not sure. My best guess from researching the net today is that it is a '73ish. The cranks are straight as is the fork, but there is a tiny wop in the big chainring. Also, the front derailleur is bent no end. I think the back just needs a little adjusting. The front still works it's just that it tends to guide the chain right in between the chainrings when coming back down from the big one. It's fine going up. Thanks for the advise...to everyone, btw.

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Those grips are super cool, if you don't want 'em and they come off without destruction... let me know.
They are, arn't they?? Let me see how they clean up, and I'll let you know. If they don't look good enough with the new paint I'll pm you. Do you still want them if they're kind of tired?
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Here's Neal's old green SC, before he got his new one.
I need to get a new picture of it.

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^^^That's gorgeous...those short chome fenders are calling my name. I must acquire a set asap...I just took this thing for another spin around the block. Once I was confident it wasn't going to fly apart on me, I got down on it. This thing launches out of the hole and rides like a dream...cobwebs and all. I'm loving the fit and after one measly day I can't get enough of this bike. Looks like it's time to start ordering.
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