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It seems to me that dck's Schwinn is pre-boom.
During the boom, I started with a purple Royce Union. I graduated to a white Rolls. I copied my friend and bought a Raleigh Grand Prix (it was entirely different than his). I rode the Grand Prix extensively and upgraded everything on it. Then, in the summer of 1975 (or was it 1974), I bought a Bob Jackson frame (by mail order from a retailer in Ohio) and put all the upgraded components from the Grand Prix onto the Jackson.
During the boom, I started with a purple Royce Union. I graduated to a white Rolls. I copied my friend and bought a Raleigh Grand Prix (it was entirely different than his). I rode the Grand Prix extensively and upgraded everything on it. Then, in the summer of 1975 (or was it 1974), I bought a Bob Jackson frame (by mail order from a retailer in Ohio) and put all the upgraded components from the Grand Prix onto the Jackson.
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Seems like every bike I own is from 71 or 72, though today I picked up this thing, seems to be from the bike boom of the '90s;
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I find that my 1984 Lotus Classique is plenty visually appealing (at least to me). But its great we all have different tastes and interest!
I had a 1975 U08, bought new in the middle of the boom when my Continental was stolen. The bike never really fit, and I sold it last year.
I also find my 1987 Miyata pretty visually appealing.
The Japanese bikes from the 1980s attract me for several reasons. First, the build and finish work was much improved over similar bikes from the 1970s. Secondly, I like the components from that era much better. As an engineer who always worked in manufacturing, I appreciate quality and the pressure the Japanese brought to raising the bar. Third, they are pretty competitive weight wise with modern bikes, in stock condition, something I couldn't say about my U08 or the Continental.
If I could have afforded a Paramount way back then, my attitude about the 1970s would have been much different.
I had a 1975 U08, bought new in the middle of the boom when my Continental was stolen. The bike never really fit, and I sold it last year.
I also find my 1987 Miyata pretty visually appealing.
The Japanese bikes from the 1980s attract me for several reasons. First, the build and finish work was much improved over similar bikes from the 1970s. Secondly, I like the components from that era much better. As an engineer who always worked in manufacturing, I appreciate quality and the pressure the Japanese brought to raising the bar. Third, they are pretty competitive weight wise with modern bikes, in stock condition, something I couldn't say about my U08 or the Continental.
If I could have afforded a Paramount way back then, my attitude about the 1970s would have been much different.
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1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
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WOW Ben! Can you show us better pictures or start a new thread?
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Well the bike boom bike I always wanted was a Varsity but that $100 price was out of my and my families reach. My first adult bike was a department store 10 speed (from a store called Grants that was going out of business so the noramlly $70 bike was $35) that I have for 5-6 years -- I think 5.75 of those years it was a rusty mess.
I have a Varsity in the basement waiting to get redone. I bought some Nashbar 27" alloy rims and plan on using the original hubs and building up my first set of wheels. That will be a next winter project.
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I have a Varsity in the basement waiting to get redone. I bought some Nashbar 27" alloy rims and plan on using the original hubs and building up my first set of wheels. That will be a next winter project.
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One of my problems with the bike boom, in stock condition, the bikes were either really porky, or really expensive. The advent of the Japanese brought bikes priced in the low end of the 1970s, but competitive weight and component wise with the higher end bikes of the 1970s.
Many of us could not afford a decent bike in the 1970s. But for the same money in the 1980s, you could get a pretty nice bike. The low end bikes of the 1970s were just that, low end. To me, the comparison is more like a Chevy Vega to a Toyota Corolla. For the same money, the quality improvement and value was striking. Certainly a 1972 Camaro was a sweet car, but I didn't have that kind of money either.
Many of us could not afford a decent bike in the 1970s. But for the same money in the 1980s, you could get a pretty nice bike. The low end bikes of the 1970s were just that, low end. To me, the comparison is more like a Chevy Vega to a Toyota Corolla. For the same money, the quality improvement and value was striking. Certainly a 1972 Camaro was a sweet car, but I didn't have that kind of money either.
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One of my problems with the bike boom, in stock condition, the bikes were either really porky, or really expensive. The advent of the Japanese brought bikes priced in the low end of the 1970s, but competitive weight and component wise with the higher end bikes of the 1970s.
Many of us could not afford a decent bike in the 1970s. But for the same money in the 1980s, you could get a pretty nice bike. The low end bikes of the 1970s were just that, low end. To me, the comparison is more like a Chevy Vega to a Toyota Corolla. For the same money, the quality improvement and value was striking. Certainly a 1972 Camaro was a sweet car, but I didn't have that kind of money either.
Many of us could not afford a decent bike in the 1970s. But for the same money in the 1980s, you could get a pretty nice bike. The low end bikes of the 1970s were just that, low end. To me, the comparison is more like a Chevy Vega to a Toyota Corolla. For the same money, the quality improvement and value was striking. Certainly a 1972 Camaro was a sweet car, but I didn't have that kind of money either.
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1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
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"store called Grants"
W.T. Grants? They went out in about 1976! Didn't they carry bikes like Kia, Iverson and the like?
W.T. Grants? They went out in about 1976! Didn't they carry bikes like Kia, Iverson and the like?
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"One of my problems with the bike boom, in stock condition, the bikes were either really porky, or really expensive. The advent of the Japanese brought bikes priced in the low end of the 1970s, but competitive weight and component wise with the higher end bikes of the 1970s.
"Many of us could not afford a decent bike in the 1970s. But for the same money in the 1980s, you could get a pretty nice bike. The low end bikes of the 1970s were just that, low end. To me, the comparison is more like a Chevy Vega to a Toyota Corolla. For the same money, the quality improvement and value was striking. Certainly a 1972 Camaro was a sweet car, but I didn't have that kind of money either."
I used to regularly ride 200+ miles per week in the '70s, and owned quite a few bikes. I found the Japanese bikes I rode to be smooth riding, dependable, easy to maintain and affordable. They were nicely made...Fujis and Kabukis were my favorites...and I never had a problem selling them when I was ready for a change. I liked the Sun Tour gears, Dia-Compe brakes, Belt leather saddles, Araya and Ukai rims, Sun Shine quick release hubs, and some of the nice paint jobs these bikes came with. I also worked in a shop back then and used to find some of the European bikes to be a nightmare to work on, especially on the lower-end. The workmanship wasn't that great and I didn't like the way they rode as much. The best value then was with the Japanese bikes IMHO. I do remember how we frowned on the Taiwanese-made bikes when they started coming in, probably the same way fans of European bikes frowned on Japanese bikes earlier, so to each his own I guess. We did sell quite a few used Peugeot UO8s "back in the day"...people really did fall for the decals on those bikes...especially the UO8s painted white. I did have a custom Campy equipped bike that I built around a French "mystery" frame. It was a fantastic & dependable ride, but I could have bought quite a few Japanese bikes for what that cost.
"Many of us could not afford a decent bike in the 1970s. But for the same money in the 1980s, you could get a pretty nice bike. The low end bikes of the 1970s were just that, low end. To me, the comparison is more like a Chevy Vega to a Toyota Corolla. For the same money, the quality improvement and value was striking. Certainly a 1972 Camaro was a sweet car, but I didn't have that kind of money either."
I used to regularly ride 200+ miles per week in the '70s, and owned quite a few bikes. I found the Japanese bikes I rode to be smooth riding, dependable, easy to maintain and affordable. They were nicely made...Fujis and Kabukis were my favorites...and I never had a problem selling them when I was ready for a change. I liked the Sun Tour gears, Dia-Compe brakes, Belt leather saddles, Araya and Ukai rims, Sun Shine quick release hubs, and some of the nice paint jobs these bikes came with. I also worked in a shop back then and used to find some of the European bikes to be a nightmare to work on, especially on the lower-end. The workmanship wasn't that great and I didn't like the way they rode as much. The best value then was with the Japanese bikes IMHO. I do remember how we frowned on the Taiwanese-made bikes when they started coming in, probably the same way fans of European bikes frowned on Japanese bikes earlier, so to each his own I guess. We did sell quite a few used Peugeot UO8s "back in the day"...people really did fall for the decals on those bikes...especially the UO8s painted white. I did have a custom Campy equipped bike that I built around a French "mystery" frame. It was a fantastic & dependable ride, but I could have bought quite a few Japanese bikes for what that cost.