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Old 06-21-09, 07:13 PM   #1
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Rims For Tubulars - C&V, Silver Only

Does anyone out there know anything about these rims? Are they heavy or light? Are they good, bad, indifferent?

http://cgi.ebay.com/MAVIC-CHAMPIONNA...3286.m20.l1116

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Old 06-21-09, 07:14 PM   #2
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Um ..... Seems a bit pricey to me. They don't ring a bell as being anything special, but I may stand corrected.
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Old 06-21-09, 07:19 PM   #3
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If your looking for period correct NOS type Mavics they'll get the job done. They're very light but not the strongest or most durable tubular out there.
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I think I am looking for a heavier (stronger) rim. I am not familiar with this model. I do not want the equivalent of the Fiamme Gold Label in terms of weight or strength. I think a good indicator of strength is the weight of the rim.

I'm after a training rim (something that won't die on me). I do actually want to actually use the things.
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Old 06-21-09, 07:38 PM   #5
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They're fine, but check out Mavic GP4 tubs. Very nice, durable rims. There happens to be a NOS set for $75 on ebay tonight on a BIN. I'm building a set now for my wife's De Rosa.
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Old 06-21-09, 07:51 PM   #6
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Thanks for the tip but I don't like the grey anodize the GP4's have. They post date my bike by about 10 years. I want shiny aluminum, if I can find it.
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Mike, maybe make a new thread about vintage silver rim weights and usages. I'm sure they had a training rim in the time frame we're talking about. I gravitate toward the GP-4, but I take your point about the appearance.
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Why make a new thread? I made THIS thread to get input on what's available on the market place.
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De-ano the rims & polish
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LOL! No way. I am not looking to remanufacture the rims.

Does anyone make a new, modern rim in the traditional box section in a silver color?

Does anyone know how the MAVIC CHAMPIONNAT DU MONDE rims posted above rack and stack in the bigger world of rim quality? What were they designed for, racing, touring, training, ...? What do they weigh?

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No idea what GP4's weigh! Good rim for racing and training. My wife will use her De Rosa for occasional rides with her slow and increasingly geriatric husband. Her main ride is a Bianchi Cronos and she races TT and Ironmans.

edit: I checked weightweenies site just now, and a fellow had them listed at 818 grams.

Also, Excel has Mavic Reflex Tubs w/ silver anodization, and I'm not totally sure on their listed weight. 32h or 36h availability. I use a clincher version on my De Rosa and they are tough stuff!
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I think I am looking for a heavier (stronger) rim. I am not familiar with this model. I do not want the equivalent of the Fiamme Gold Label in terms of weight or strength. I think a good indicator of strength is the weight of the rim.

I'm after a training rim (something that won't die on me). I do actually want to actually use the things.
Fiamme Ergal made great front wheels. Just a few weeks ago did a 75 mile ride with some potholed downhill dirt sections at 25 mph .... Held up great !

How picky are you ? Looking for NOS ? Matching pair ? Used ok ?
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http://www.mavic.com/road/products/reflex.M122C.2.aspx

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I think these rims are excellent. The price doesn't seem bad, either. Some metal polish will make them look beautiful, too.

If I were in the market for tubular rims, I would buy these at this price. Mavic rims of that vintage were my absolute favorite. They built up straighter and truer than any other rim, and they were durable.
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I think these rims are excellent. The price doesn't seem bad, either. Some metal polish will make them look beautiful, too.

If I were in the market for tubular rims, I would buy these at this price. Mavic rims of that vintage were my absolute favorite. They built up straighter and truer than any other rim, and they were durable.
To which are you referring?
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I'm talking about the rims Mike Mills asked us about, selling on ebay.
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Cool! Thanks for the recommendation. They look nice, too.
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If you want to shoot a wad of money my way, I have a set of original NOS 70's silver Mavic SSC rims, the ones that were initially only supplied to the pros and their mechanics. They are without a doubt the best rims that were available prior to the hard anodized ones. I also have a set of NOS Fiamme Ergal's but as you have noted, they can at times be somewhat questionable.
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