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Old 06-30-09, 06:26 AM   #1
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Need help on bike ID. Big pictures. All chrome.

Owner says it is "Japanese, but not Fuji," and doesn't know the make or model because "all the stickers have been removed."

Anyone know anything about it?


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I know it's purty.
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Old 06-30-09, 06:52 AM   #3
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I know it's purty.

Haha, it sure is! I'm just wondering if it's something special which would justify spending $125!
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I would spend $125 for that right now.
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My guess is it's a late seventies Schwinn Super Le Tour 12.2 with full chrome option (that was a $50 extra), or possibly an early eighties Schwinn Voyageur 11.8 with full chrome option.

Is there a serial number on the BB shell or one of the rear dropouts?

Regardless of what it is, with the forged dropouts and chrome plating it's easily worth $125 if it's straight (no rust, dents, dings, bent fork, out of alignment).
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Thanks Scooper!

I've e-mailed the seller (this is on craigslist right now) that I want to buy it. He responded to my first e-mail and sent the larger images, but now I imagine he's gone to work, as he mentioned he would measure the frame "later today" when I asked what size.

He also claims it is Japanese, so I'm not sure how that fits the Schwinn guess. But hey, maybe he's totally wrong. I mean, he took a picture of the NON-drive side
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Please buy it regardless - that is a great frame well worth $125. If it's a 58 and that's too big for you, I will buy it if yer willin to ship it to me.
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Now I really hope he has internet at work and likes to check his personal e-mail.
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He e-mailed back! It's MINE!
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Thanks Scooper!

He also claims it is Japanese, so I'm not sure how that fits the Schwinn guess. But hey, maybe he's totally wrong. I mean, he took a picture of the NON-drive side
Both the Super Le Tour 12.2 and the Voyageur 11.8 were designed by Schwinn in the U.S. and manufactured in Japan by Panasonic.
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It's not your until it's in your hands - I had a Fuji Tourer the other day, he said I could come get it, etc, but someone else called and he went ahead and sold it to them.

Good for you - neat bike for sure.
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Both the Super Le Tour 12.2 and the Voyageur 11.8 were designed by Schwinn in the U.S. and manufactured in Japan by Panasonic.
Ahh, I see!

I've searched both those bikes here on BF, and all pictures show more elaborate lugs on the head tube. The ones on this bike are smooth curves and then go flat around the front.

The closest I've found are on Nishikis....could this be a possibility?
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It's not your until it's in your hands - I had a Fuji Tourer the other day, he said I could come get it, etc, but someone else called and he went ahead and sold it to them.

Good for you - neat bike for sure.
Haha, I know...this has happened to me a few times before. The most upsetting of which was a beautiful Trek road bike for $75 that the guy was practically GIVING away....

And this might not mean much more, but I was sure to ask him if he could guarantee he would sell it to me, as I would be driving about 45 minutes to his house and wanted to make sure this wouldn't happen. He said that wouldn't be a problem. So we'll see! Going to pick it up at 3:00 PM
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buy it and send it to me!
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Old 06-30-09, 03:10 PM   #15
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Ok, just returned home with this BEAUTIFUL BIKE!!!

Here's some further info now that it's in my hands (more pictures to come later)

The frame is all chrome.
Brakes - Dia Compe Gran Compe
Derailleurs - Suntour Cyclone
Cranks - Sugino Mighty Tour 170
Front and Rear hubs - Shimano
Dropouts stamped with "Suntour GS"
Headset - Japan Tange Industries Levin
Handlebars - Sakae Custom Road Champion
Rims - Araya 27" (appear to be aluminum)
Seatpost - Sakae Laprade

The frame has no name on it whatsoever.

SN on the bottom reads: JO106202
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I know very little about bikes but parts of that frame resemble my Nishiki very closely. I have almost exactly the same parts. Forged Suntour dropouts, Dia Compe brakes, Suntour Cyclone, etc. I also have the same 27" aluminum Araya rims with Shimano hubs.

My bike is not near as nice as yours though because mine was stored outside and not well cared for. I think $125 was very reasonable.
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I know very little about bikes but parts of that frame resemble my Nishiki very closely. I have almost exactly the same parts. Forged Suntour dropouts, Dia Compe brakes, Suntour Cyclone, etc. I also have the same 27" aluminum Araya rims with Shimano hubs.
Looking at some pictures of other Nishiki bikes, the lugging on the head tube definitely look the same....but I haven't seen an all chrome one yet.... hmmmmm
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Nice catch! Congratulations!
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Looks very similar to my "Nishiki Prestige" same lugs and all !
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I think it could easily be a Panasonic or a Panasonic-made Schwinn. You got an excellent deal on a very well made bike.

It looks like a 60cm frame.
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Hee's some close ups of the lugs on a Schwinn 12.2 I had, HTH


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I just checked the lugs on my Panasonic made 77 Schwinn Volare and Super Le Tour 12.2. This bike's lugs are not a match for the Super Le Tour 12.2, but they do match the Volare. The only thing is I would expect a Dura-ace headset with a Volare, unless someone swapped out the Dura-ace.

Cool bike.
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What a joy to ride this bike! It's very light and responsive. The cyclone derailleurs shift so well!

I'll be taking it home in a couple hours, where I'll take more pictures of all the components to further help with the ID of this bike.

I'll be sure to get some closeups of the lugging, as that seems to be the only defining feature of this bike besides its beautiful chrome.
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