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    Schwinn is In beakgeek's Avatar
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    1977 Volare Frame and Fork in good shape even trade for comparable Paramount?

    I might consider trading my 1977 Pearlescent Orange Schwinn Volare frame and fork for a Schwinn Paramount of similar vintage due to it being just a bit too big.

    My bike can be viewed here:

    http://fixedgeargallery.com/2007/aug...ceBrashear.htm

    Would you consider this to be an even trade for a Paramount frame and fork with headset?

    Thanks!

    Terry

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    I would venture the opinion that a genuine Paramount of the same condition and era would be considered more valuable in commercial terms than your Volare.

    In no way is that derogatory toward your bike. I think it's a beauty. I'd like to own it. I just wouldn't trade my Paramount for it.

    J


    Quote Originally Posted by beakgeek View Post
    I might consider trading my 1977 Pearlescent Orange Schwinn Volare frame and fork for a Schwinn Paramount of similar vintage due to it being just a bit too big.

    My bike can be viewed here:

    http://fixedgeargallery.com/2007/aug...ceBrashear.htm

    Would you consider this to be an even trade for a Paramount frame and fork with headset?

    Thanks!

    Terry

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    It might help if you told folks exactly what size it is, and what size you're looking for. It's a beauty, that's sure.

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    When both a Paramount and a Volare were new a Paramount cost roughly double what the Volare did. I doubt you will get the frames traded. Oh I forgot Volare's don't have Nervex lugs. Roger

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhenning View Post
    When both a Paramount and a Volare were new a Paramount cost roughly double what the Volare did.
    From the '77 consumer catalog:

    P14 track $450.00

    P10 touring $675.00

    P15 touring $685.00

    P13 racer $700.00

    Volare $495.00

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    I'd give my right testicle to be as tall then I would buy it from you and your problem would be solved. Too tall for my short legs. Everytime I see that bike it makes me more determined to get mine powdercoated orange and put the decals I have on it.
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    If they were, I'd be scouting for Volares right and left, specifically to trade them for Paramounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stringbreaker View Post
    I'd give my right testicle to be as tall then I would buy it from you and your problem would be solved. Too tall for my short legs. Everytime I see that bike it makes me more determined to get mine powdercoated orange and put the decals I have on it.
    Wouldn't a PC finish be less painful and less expensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    If they were, I'd be scouting for Volares right and left, specifically to trade them for Paramounts.

    -Kurt
    If Beekgeek's Volare were a 23-24" frame, I'd consider a trade for my 25" P-13's frameset. Call it C&V good will.
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    My Volare is too small and I need a 23" too

    I finally have my 21" Volare up to riding condition again. I found the correct shifters, front and rear derailleurs, and derailleur cable guide. I couldn't find the lower clamp cradles for the two bolt seat post, so I just bought a NOS SR Sakae one bolt seatpost. I also could not find a wheelset with high flange Dura Ace hubs, so I went for the next best thing, low flange 1975 Campy Record hubs with Super Champion Competition tubular rims. They had a couple of bent spokes, the LBS replaced them, trued both wheels and glued on my inexpensive Clement sew-ups for $60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    If they were, I'd be scouting for Volares right and left, specifically to trade them for Paramounts.

    -Kurt
    Kurt

    Good luck finding them to trade. I have spent the last year or so looking for them to get Dura-ace parts and they are extremely hard to find. I only know of about 6 of them online, but there could always be sleepers.

    I figured someone who appreciates handmade Schwinns would realize they are harder to find than Paramounts. I'll just keep it and ride it.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Wahl View Post
    It might help if you told folks exactly what size it is, and what size you're looking for. It's a beauty, that's sure.
    The frame is 25 inches - 63.5 cm

    A 23 inch (58.4 cm) frame would be a better fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beakgeek View Post
    I figured someone who appreciates handmade Schwinns would realize they are harder to find than Paramounts.
    I'm your guy - if I had a Paramount frame to trade, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I don't at the moment, however. I also think the Volare gets some of its Schwinn mojo from the build, so I'd strongly prefer a complete bike. I'd trade a complete Paramount straight up for a complete Volare from the same year, again, because the Volare is indeed rare, and Paramounts, love 'em though we might, are not. The Paramount could be very easily replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beakgeek View Post
    Kurt

    Good luck finding them to trade.
    Thanks, for I'm going to do so right now. Bob, are you ready to swap frames?

    -Kurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    Thanks, for I'm going to do so right now. Bob, are you ready to swap frames?

    -Kurt
    Great! That's one. Only 15 or so to go. :-)

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    I don't want your right testicle, or your left one for that matter, unless I can cash them at the bank. My Schwinn Volare, Red, 53cm, complete dura ace, is currently listed on ebay.

    Quote Originally Posted by stringbreaker View Post
    I'd give my right testicle to be as tall then I would buy it from you and your problem would be solved. Too tall for my short legs. Everytime I see that bike it makes me more determined to get mine powdercoated orange and put the decals I have on it.
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.

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