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Old 04-20-11, 04:21 PM   #9701
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What is all the hate on the unicrown? Form is supposed to FOLLOW function -not the other way around
I'm not a unicrown fork fan too, but might it mean less bent forks out there if everyone had one?........But fork crowns do look sooooo nice on a C&V bike and unicrowns just look sooooo......uhmmm.....cheapy cheap cheap?
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No, a Ritchey hand-made fork, and it's included according to the seller, just not pictured on the bike.
Wish there was a picture. I'd just to be curious to see what his road forks looked like since the Ritchey Logic MTB forks he made were unicrown and a very, very nice rigid MTB fork.
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At least 20 Classic Dahons New Old Stock in Boxes in Pensacola.
They are looking for someone to buy the lot.
They also have a couple of big boxes of new old stock Dahon parts
I wish they were closer to me.
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I'm not a unicrown fork fan too, but might it mean less bent forks out there if everyone had one?........But fork crowns do look sooooo nice on a C&V bike and unicrowns just look sooooo......uhmmm.....cheapy cheap cheap?
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By definition of a unicrown fork, this fork qualifies. But I think it is one of the more beautiful vintage forks made. Take a look and see if you agree?
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By definition of a unicrown fork, this fork qualifies. But I think it is one of the more beautiful vintage forks made. Take a look and see if you agree?
I don't see any welding, so how is that a unicrown fork. It looks like an internally lugged fork.

I'm not particularly fond of the crown either
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By definition of a unicrown fork, this fork qualifies.
No, by definition, a "unicrown" fork has the blades welded directly to the steer tube, with no actual "crown" at all:



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That is a nice fork. It uses an internally lugged, investment-cast crown from Tange, specifically the AERO #1175:

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Raleigh thread Phil Wood bottom bracket retaining rings

Phil Wood bottom bracket retaining rings, 1.370 x 26tpi for Raleigh thread. Item #160576113126:

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So what's so non-functional about lighter fork blades, better ride quality and a stronger steerer-blade junction? Them's what you get with a properly-done crowned fork. The only advantage to a unicrown is that it's cheaper to produce.
At Trek, we actually did some testing of unicrown forks when they first were offered as OEM components. It turns out they are both stronger and tend to be lighter than traditional forks with investment cast crowns. The fork built with a Henry James investment cast crown came the closest to being as light as a unicrown fork, but the cost was much higher. The Tange, Ishiwata, Haden and Cinelli crowns we had been using were all heavier. Low-end forks with formed sheet metal crowns rather than investment casting were as light as the unicrown, but nowhere near as strong.

But the aesthetics of unicrown forks back then (early 80s) just didn't sit well with people and we only used unicrowns on MTB models.
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Old 04-20-11, 05:59 PM   #9709
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Willing to facilitate (just for a chance to ride around the block...) Did I say I hate Uncle Sam too?

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Tom Ritchey handbuilt roadbike on SF Bay CL. 58cm, says made of Columbus SP...best offer over $500.
A chance to own & ride a classic, I'd be all over it except: no $$$ and it's just a tad too big.
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Old 04-20-11, 06:00 PM   #9710
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No, by definition, a "unicrown" fork has the blades welded directly to the steer tube, with no actual "crown" at all:




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That is a nice fork. It uses an internally lugged, investment-cast crown from Tange, specifically the AERO #1175:

Yup, I agree that the Tange fork pictured does use an investment cast crown brazed internally to the two fork blades so the join is not visible. I guess I am just too much of a purist because unless the lug is external and can be identified as such, it isn't really lugged any more than two round components are butt joined using an internally fitted piece of tubing and brazed together. All this is just my opinion.
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Now, on to what this thread is actually FOR... this guy posted this on the Seattle CL, so I'm guessing it's everywhere from here to LA, but still...

Vintage Austro Daimler road bike, for $250:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/2336813290.html

Looks pretty sweet to me.
Speaking of Austro Daimler... there's a Vent Noir II smoky chrome on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-Austro-Daim...item20b8a932f4

Looks like a 61cm or larger though. Too bad or else I might have been driving up to haggle with him this weekend.
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...could be decent, called him and he said it fits him at 6'2... so I didn't bother asking further.
Yeah but look at how much seat post is exposed. That frame is no bigger than 58cm. I could ride it at 5'11". It's nice looking and probably ready to ride. A fair deal at $200 I should think.

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Yeah but look at how much seat post is exposed. That frame is no bigger than 58cm. I could ride it at 5'11". It's nice looking and probably ready to ride. A fair deal at $200 I should think.

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I think a lot of it is due to the angle, compare the back wheel to the front wheel, but yeah. It's probably on the small end for someone 6'2.
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Here's a unicrown fork that was purpose-built and all business. Matched to one of the greatest performing steel frames ever made - the F. Moser Leader AX. I believe that it was even butted - the fork, I mean.

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That's enough of all this fork crown business! Let's get back on topic. Lol.
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That's enough of all this fork crown business! Let's get back on topic. Lol.
I believe this is on topic. It has to do with vintage components and what they were built for. There is some disagreement on semantics but no big deal really. As you can see, the definition of unicrown isn't really so clear cut given afilado's (Julian) example.

JohnDThompson, we actually agree more than it appears. I am arguing a very subtle difference which apparently is just me and how I see things (a little off center at times). BTW, a good friend and brilliant former Trek engineer that I believe you know (Damon Rinard), told me about unicrown properties years ago. I have one on a track bike and find it is rock steady. At one time and I don't know if they still do but Trek did an awful lot of fork testing for strength and aero improvements. Damon was particularly interested in aero features and would be surprised if he had much involvement developing the unicrown fork. Butt ugly but highly functional.

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1980's pink lugged frames-58cm (warwick,r.i.)

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(3) Pink lugged frames-selling off part of my collection of pink frames. all frames are: 58cm c-top seat tube. clean and shiny with no dents, include a smooth headset, seatpost and binder bolt. i am a bike mechanic and have many other parts to complete or partially complete the build and will work with you to do so.....for not much extra than the $125 price per frame. email me with questions. the MBTA stops in Warwick

-Schwinn Super Sport with Tenax tubing
-Schwinn Prelude with Tenax tubing
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Speaking of Austro Daimler... there's a Vent Noir II smoky chrome on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-Austro-Daim...item20b8a932f4

Looks like a 61cm or larger though. Too bad or else I might have been driving up to haggle with him this weekend.
funny, judging by his starting price he thinks it is valuable but his text just says it is rare.
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Right in my neighborhood I can facilitate if interested:
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/2338316987.html

Cannondale Road Bike - $250 (Central Square)

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Very nice Cannondale 3.0 Road Series aluminum road bike. Handmade in USA. Shimano RX100 drivetrain with indexed shifting on downtube shifters. Tuned up and ready to ride! 61cm frame fits someone 6'-0" to 6'-3".

I will be available to meet in the Central Square area on Friday, 4/22 between 3:30 and 6:30 pm. Your purchase helps to support our Youth Earn-a-Bike program in Worcester. Please call 508-579-9093 for more information and directions. IMPORTANT NOTE: if you email, please include your name and phone number. Due to the spam on craigslist I cannot respond to emails until I am sure you are a real person :-)

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Cool 80s funny bike:
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Shogun Time Trial bike frame and some parts price Lowered - $275 (Lynn)

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This frame is around 52cm and will include the flat spoke 24"tubular wheel, old and new sewup, TTT bars and stem and brake levers , seat post and new Selle San Marco seat and the 600 rear derailer. I have had the bike for many years and it has been my wall art. Best Offer

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I believe this is on topic. It has to do with vintage components and what they were built for. There is some disagreement on semantics but no big deal really. As you can see, the definition of unicrown isn't really so clear cut given afilado's (Julian) example.

JohnDThompson, we actually agree more than it appears. I am arguing a very subtle difference which apparently is just me and how I see things (a little off center at times). BTW, a good friend and brilliant former Trek engineer that I believe you know (Damon Rinard), told me about unicrown properties years ago. I have one on a track bike and find it is rock steady. At one time and I don't know if they still do but Trek did an awful lot of fork testing for strength and aero improvements. Damon was particularly interested in aero features and would be surprised if he had much involvement developing the unicrown fork. Butt ugly but highly functional.

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This thread is for ebay/craigslist finds, not comparing unicrown and lugged crowns. I could see that topic having its own thread though. This has been brought up in numerous Ironman threads. I own Ironman bikes with unicrown forks and Raleighs with lugged crowns. They're all beautiful, either way.
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Who's got oogles to spend????

I had no idea Weinmann ever made such nice brakes. If I were fabulously wealthy or didn't care to eat for a month........

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These are pretty stinkin' nice, too. If I weren't already tapped out.......

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This thread is for ebay/craigslist finds, not comparing unicrown and lugged crowns. I could see that topic having its own thread though. This has been brought up in numerous Ironman threads. I own Ironman bikes with unicrown forks and Raleighs with lugged crowns. They're all beautiful, either way.
By the same token, are you supposed to be selling your bikes on this thread? Is there not another thread expressly for that purpose? Just sayin'.
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