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Old 08-17-09, 12:13 PM   #1
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1950's Raleigh Cruiser. Worth picking this one up ?

I've always liked the look of these old style cruisers from back in the day.

I stumbled across one about 2 hours from me and might look at it on Wednesday. Looks to be in excellent condition for its age.

Are these worth picking up ?





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Old 08-17-09, 12:18 PM   #2
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Very nice. Would depend on price, of course.
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Nice looking bike... but it is a 70's model in what appears to be awesome condition.
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Good find...

These old Raleigh roadsters are becoming increasingly valuable, provided they are made in England. I have sold them for as much as $350.00 and as little as $80.00 or so. Your bike looks to be in good condition and should prove to offer a nice enough ride while increasing in value. Good bike and good investment.
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Awesome to hear.

I did a little research, and you guys are correct. The seller is under the impression it is a 50's era bike. Its coming from an estate sale (original owner) and I guess the person selling it is the landskeeper or something of that sort.

Price....Very reasonable. I'll post it up once the bike is in my possession.

Hard to tune up?
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English three speeds are not that difficult to keep although they do have some little quirks you need to be aware of.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/english-3.html
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I think Sturmey Archer stamps the year of manufacturer right into the shell of the rear hub. Maybe someone will come along and confirm that.

My guess is 1970s.

1978 if I was forced to pin it down.

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looks to be a good bike I am a terribly cheap guy and wouldn't go higher than say $200 for this one

yes it is worth picking up they make great towne bikes and they look snazzy with a picnic basket and lady in tow
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Awesome to hear.

I did a little research, and you guys are correct. The seller is under the impression it is a 50's era bike. Its coming from an estate sale (original owner) and I guess the person selling it is the landskeeper or something of that sort.

Price....Very reasonable. I'll post it up once the bike is in my possession.

Hard to tune up?
No, not hard. Depends on how far you wish to go. You might put air in the tires and oil in the hub and away you go. Hardest part is getting the cottered cranks off, assuming you want to overhaul the bottom bracket.

Sixty Fiver is correct; it's a 70's-vintage bike. The self-adjusting brakes are a giveway:

http://sheldonbrown.com/raleigh.html

I'd say '73-'74, judging from the Raleigh Logo on the chainguard. The stamp on the SA is the best gauge, though I can't read mine and can barely read the 72-8 on my wife's (ours are sideways from how they normally look).

The Brooks saddle looks to be in excellent shape--those can cost over $100, so worth at least that.

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Look carefully at the 3 rivet holes in the nose of the saddle. That's where these tend to blow out.
The self adjusting brakes aren't very tolerant of out of true wheels.
Otherwise it looks to be a nice bike. Are those Dunlop double stripe tires? Very cool but sometimes rot from the inside out (cotton cording, I think).
Solid bike. I've had several. Love them.
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Get it if its priced $100 or under. The frame condition is remarkable, though the brightwork looks a bit pitted on the bars.

It is a 1966-1972, incidentally; and as it has the self-adjusting brake levers that were supposed to debut in 1973, I'd wager that it is a '72, or an early '73 that was fitted with leftover decals of the previous year.

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The hub shell will be dated with a production year and this will either match the year of the bike or in some cases may be from a previous year's hub production.

The self adjusting brakes place the bike as being a 1973- 75 model as these brake levers were not used for very long.
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Okay, Okay. I'll fold.

He's asking $200.

Going to pick it up Wednesday. Here are some more pics.

















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It looks good for a Raleigh Sports. Everything looks original, including the B-72. The B-66 came standard on the Superbe.
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The self adjusting brakes place the bike as being a 1973- 75 model as these brake levers were not used for very long.
Not with those decals. Incidentally, the self-adjusters lasted until 1976.

I'm wagering 1972 or extremely early 1973.

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P.S.: $200 is too much. $150 max with that amount of pitting on the chrome.
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Is pitting on chrome removable somehow?
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Is pitting on chrome removable somehow?
You can polish using something like Simichrome really deep pits aren't going to come out.

I would go $200 on that bike in my area, especially seeing how it is the taller frame (23") which are harder to find.

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Oxalic acid, bronze wool, Never Dull - all will take surface rust off, but to what extent the rust is surface is my concern - anything below the chrome will leave pitted spots.

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I'd agree that $200.00 would be a good price for that bike... the Brooks saddle appears to be in great shape and adds to the value of the bike.
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Is pitting on chrome removable somehow?
There are many methods on removing rust and corrosion from chrome--search on oxalic acid or rust and see what you get. The chrome on my wife's wheels looks worse than that, so I may have to Scothbrite them smooth.

I'm thinking $200 seems a bit high, but I have no idea what Raleighs sell for in your area, or how likely you are to find another relatively clean one.

It's hard to see in the pictures, but it looks like the wheels are 32/40 spoke, which would make me guess it's from '73, as I think they switched to 36/36 sometime around there.
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It's hard to see in the pictures, but it looks like the wheels are 32/40 spoke, which would make me guess it's from '73, as I think they switched to 36/36 sometime around there.
The switch to 36/36 on the Sports happened in 1973 (the DL-1's also became 36/40 that year).

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Not with those decals. Incidentally, the self-adjusters lasted until 1976.

I'm wagering 1972 or extremely early 1973.

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P.S.: $200 is too much. $150 max with that amount of pitting on the chrome.
I agree. $200 is top dollar. I'd pay that if it was 50's, in good shape, and I was going to actually ride it. 70's bikes are a dime a dozen. I'd go $100 - IF I knew someone who needed one.

$50, I'd run down and pick it up.
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I agree. $200 is top dollar. I'd pay that if it was 50's, in good shape, and I was going to actually ride it.
Though a genuine '50s machine in good shape often brings more then $200.

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Find out today the seller also has the matchin "hers" bike in the same condition. Even has the child seat.

Do you folks think buying the set would add to the resale value ?
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So you are picking these up so you can flip them ?

Questions like this belong in the appraisals section.
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